Das Unkle wrote:
[quote]The Grim Reaper wrote:
"We've had this discussion before. Just like you have, fortunately, been untouched by the Covid pandemic.. But the good fortune that you and I may enjoy doesn't mean that either the Covid pandemic o... is fake, or overblown. It just means that you a...are lucky whereas a lot of other people have been unlucky."
Baloney. Nearly everyone I talk to knows nobody or at most knows of one or two people who got sick from Covid. My experience is not fortunate, it is typical.
There is no way this "pandemic" justified the 24/7 fearmongering we have been fed for over a year.
Anyone paying attention that past few decades knows that fear is used to sell a dishonest agenda and to stop people from thinking logically. We are being lied to and it ain't for our own good.
"As to your odds of getting Covid, I use 10% as a rough estimate based on the fact that we have had about 33 million reported cases in a country about 10 times as large. Now, the actual number of cases is much higher, since a lot of people got Covid and never got tested. So 10% is a conservative number."
Well, based in experience, if more than 10% of Americans have had Covid, 98% of those had little or no symptoms. And since it has touched nobody I see on any kind of regular basis and cases are way down, a 10% chance of me getting Covid now seems greatly overstated.
"With so many people getting vaccinated, I'm not sure if that increases or decreases the odds that someone who is unvaccinated gets Covid. Overall, cases are going down significantly where vaccination rates are high, but the pool of people that the virus can infect is shrinking, so does that mean your odds of getting Covid are actually increasing? I don't know."
Common sense. If Covid cases are way down, the odds of contracting it are way down. How could they actually increase? Is this an intelligent animal of some sort that knows to seek out the non vaxxed? When it encounters a vaxxed person it moves on to look for an un vaxxed? That's ridiculous.
"I'm not sure if you need to become "quite sick" from Covid to develop side effects such as myocarditis."
Isn't getting myocarditis considered getting quite sick?
"On the other hand, one study showed that out of a million vaccinated people, 12. 6 developed myocarditis. That's about 1 in 79,000. "
Very odd since in the general population the incidence of myocarditis this is what I found "The incidence and prevalence of myocarditis are not known from population-based studies because there is no widely available test that can be applied at a population level". I did find an estimate of 3 million plus worldwide....which is one in 2,333 give or take. And this as well: A recent study using International Classification of Diseases (ninth revision) codes estimated the global prevalence of myocarditis to be ≈22 of 100 000 patients annually (1/4,500). So, unless the vax greatly decreases the odds of getting myocarditis -- which seems extremely unlikely, the 79,000 is grossly exaggerated. You have to analyze all the "facts" and "data" being thrown at us. Much is easily dismissed as impossible