Disaster for Track and Field Reputation!

I agree!

Not really track and field.If the press put the pieces together they may realise the US has the biggest state sponsored doping regime in the world and ban them all,just like what happened to Russia.

US televisions rights are just too much to have this happen. If the US was banned and the television rights were pulled that would be a big blow for T&F.

Birkoboy wrote:

Not really track and field.If the press put the pieces together they may realise the US has the biggest state sponsored doping regime in the world and ban them all,just like what happened to Russia.

Lol what, is there even a shred of evidence that would suggested state sponsored doping in the US?

Smoking weed does not make you a doper, and it shouldn’t classify as a PED, it’s not the 20th century anymore. End of story.

portsea57 wrote:

Look at it this way: 1) Olympic 100m women's favourite in violation of drug rules. 2) Olympic women's 200m favourite misses three drug tests 3) World 400m Champ Naser banned for drug use. My God, how much worse can it get. All we need. now, is for the world press to really join all the dots up on this and track and field could really be in big trouble.

2016 Olympic 800m champion cannot compete in that event because she has t@sticles

Non T/F people don't really care about doping, hence the NFL, MLB, NBA are drowning in PEDs

e h wrote:

Birkoboy wrote:

Not really track and field.If the press put the pieces together they may realise the US has the biggest state sponsored doping regime in the world and ban them all,just like what happened to Russia.

Lol what, is there even a shred of evidence that would suggested state sponsored doping in the US?

Who controls US media, election campaigns, politicians, lawyers, scientists, i.e. the state? Corporations.

Corporate-sponsored doping = state-sponsored doping.

Which corporation currently owns track?

portsea57 wrote:

I agree!

You forgot to change handles to agree with yourself.

7456 wrote:

portsea57 wrote:

I agree!

You forgot to change handles to agree with yourself.

You’re killing me over here…he really did forget or else he just later wanted to confirm that he really does agree with his initial post.

The way people are looking at it many care about the first situation but everyone is focusing on Richardson and not how the sport looks. No one outside track cares about the other two situations and people inside the community know that this has been happening for years. Track looks no worse

portsea57 wrote:

Look at it this way: 1) Olympic 100m women's favourite in violation of drug rules. 2) Olympic women's 200m favourite misses three drug tests 3) World 400m Champ Naser banned for drug use. My God, how much worse can it get. All we need. now, is for the world press to really join all the dots up on this and track and field could really be in big trouble.

"Ingesting" weed and missing tests are not nearly as damning as the 4 year ban for steroid use by Houlihan, which I noticed you left out and only listed the black women.

On purpose?

Unconscious?

portsea57 wrote:

Look at it this way: 1) Olympic 100m women's favourite in violation of drug rules. 2) Olympic women's 200m favourite misses three drug tests 3) World 400m Champ Naser banned for drug use. My God, how much worse can it get. All we need. now, is for the world press to really join all the dots up on this and track and field could really be in big trouble.

I'd add to that in at least half the running events some of the top 8-10 runners (i.e medalists on a good day) aren't even allowed to run in champs simply because they're not top 3 in their home country on the qualifying day.

Doping in USA is far worse than russia.A lot more athletes are doping there,much greater depth,shonky coaches,a win at all cost mentality,and corporations and sponsors expecting results.Their doping starts in high school and spirals from there.I hope one day itll finally be exposed,and USA gets banned for many years.Its long overdue.Also if and when it happens other nations wont send their athletes to US colleges,and other foreign athletes wont move there,to train,and join a doping squad.

Naser got banned for missing three tests rather than a positive test.

Oh, He wasn't talking about Shelley. She did serve a suspension for a banned substance as well. Nobidy really cares. This too shall pass.

I mentioned the 100m, 200m and 400m because - amazingly - the three favourites in the sprinting events have all fallen foul of the rules! I could have mentioned all sorts of other athletes but it was the situation in the 100, 200 and 400 that I felt could be picked up by - say the BBC - as most damaging to track and field.

portsea57 wrote:

I agree!

It’s nice that you agree with yourself

It’s a big shame. It shows that Americans think they are above the rules and can’t get caught.

Above all it’s the ignorance around everything. It says something if you turn to a grey area substance before your biggest event thinking it won’t matter or let it slide. It matters that you claim innnonce and then vaguely blame it on a food truck.

Even if the rules are stupid. Everyone agreed to them and if aren’t a coach making sure everything is in line with your athletes than it’s just a bad coach

Running is going in the wrong direction for years now. The gap between the top runners and those sub elites to recreational runners is prob alt larger than its ever been. It’s going to cut down on individuals.

Running needs to decided should the top level athletes be treated like other professional athletes and get paid like them. Or should that money be re distributed to all sub elite to give more runners the ability to train (while still holding a job) and see who breaks though.

I think Mary cain may be onto something as how running can become sustainable again.