You also fail to understand that Centro is past his prime as a 1500m runner. That was one weak field at the Olympic Trials. Two collegians made it. Come on man!
Dude, you are a moron. Youngest 1500 NCAA champ in 110 years. 3:50 for the mile at age 19.
Game. Set. Match. Wheating NEVER did anything that promising. You lost, dude.
Um...those were NCAA races. Hocker just won the Olympic Trials against a gold medalist in much faster than what you just presented here.
Hocker so far has more promise than Wheating did.
Ignorant post Flagpole. Wheaton won that 800m in 1:45, faster than Hocker has done. Hocker does NOT have more promise than what Wheaton showed before we had the benefit of hindsight. Plus Wheaton did run 1:44 and 3:30 later that year.
52 last lap and a 3:35 are exactly what the Olympic and WC finals since 1983 have averaged out too. Obviously that won't be accurate in predicting any given race, but Hocker does have the wheels to medal, if not win the whole darn thing.
Its incredible that this was said in all seriousness. Of a runner that had proven 0 against the worlds best.
Ignorant post Flagpole. Wheaton won that 800m in 1:45, faster than Hocker has done. Hocker does NOT have more promise than what Wheaton showed before we had the benefit of hindsight. Plus Wheaton did run 1:44 and 3:30 later that year.
I don't know if it's been said in this thread already, but what separates hocker from wheating is what Hocker can do in a 5000. The difference in aerobic development almost guarantees more consistency and longevity than Wheating had.
Wheating was plagued by injuries after his breakout 3:30 and 1:44 performances. It is not a coincidence that you do not see many elite 6'6" 800/1500 runners. Asbel Kiprop looked like a giant when he raced and he was 4" shorter than Wheating.
Hocker has a history of getting in just enough training and staying injury free. If he can dial up the training as a pro and stay healthy, there is no reason to expect him to flame out like Wheating.
OK a sensible post here. You are correct that Hocker may have a durable career and have much success. The point of the thread was to instill the notion that the future trajectory of these guys is UNKNOWN and maybe pump the brakes a bit.
As the OP, I would like to say that although I schooled many of you 2 years ago in this thread, it is also now premature to be completely giving up on Cole Hocker. Now that the brakes have been pumped and this vehicle is idling, let us not throw it into the scrap heap just yet.
Um...those were NCAA races. Hocker just won the Olympic Trials against a gold medalist in much faster than what you just presented here.
Hocker so far has more promise than Wheating did.
Ignorant post Flagpole. Wheaton won that 800m in 1:45, faster than Hocker has done. Hocker does NOT have more promise than what Wheaton showed before we had the benefit of hindsight. Plus Wheaton did run 1:44 and 3:30 later that year.
Ignorant post Flagpole? You mean "another" ignorant post by Flagpole. There are too many to count. Pushing 60, he's losing it all too often now.
I've said it from the beginning. Hocker is just Wheating +super shoes.
As someone who was there, I hope you are wrong. Do you remember what it was like to spend three (or was it four?) years wondering if today was the day when Wheating would finally return to form.
It's hard for people to remember that how impressive AW's 3:30 was. It made him the 4th fastest American ever, and the 4th fastest in the world that year.
When Hocker ran his 3:31, that was only the 11th fastest time in the world. To place as high as Wheating, Hocker would have had to run a 3:29, 2+ seconds faster than he did.'
Hocker obviously has a lot of promise. I hope he gets it sorted, so he can deliver on that promise.
OK a sensible post here. You are correct that Hocker may have a durable career and have much success. The point of the thread was to instill the notion that the future trajectory of these guys is UNKNOWN and maybe pump the brakes a bit.
As the OP, I would like to say that although I schooled many of you 2 years ago in this thread, it is also now premature to be completely giving up on Cole Hocker. Now that the brakes have been pumped and this vehicle is idling, let us not throw it into the scrap heap just yet.
As I was saying, some of you seemed to completely give up on Hocker, just as many of you 2 years ago were crowning him the great US miler. Many times the truth is somewhere in between. Hocker is very talented, but as some have said, the greatest ability is often durability. If Hocker has that, he can at least be in the mix for a few US global teams.