Centro likely doesn't have the same kick but I'm still gonna go with him being the winner of the final. Probably not gonna be a fast race and experience is a virtue
Centro likely doesn't have the same kick but I'm still gonna go with him being the winner of the final. Probably not gonna be a fast race and experience is a virtue
104 degree heat? The final will be slow, and that benefits Centrowitz, who is a fantastic racer. Kessler is a fantastic talent, but must learn to stay near the front, both in the heats and the final. He can't give up too much ground.
adad wrote:
Kessler is in. His progression curve has been ridiculous and hasn't shown signs of slowing yet. I think he is in 3:30/3:31 shape and an olympic medal threat. I think the final will be a fast race and race positioning will be less of a factor.
Lol, no chance that Kessler is in that shape and i'm a fan. Making the finals and finishing top 6 will be a win for him. I don't see him making top 3.
I am going to guess that Warhurst had Kessler peaking a few weeks ago (for good reason) and he’ll be fortunate to make the finals.
1. Centro 3:36
2. Nuguse 3:37
3. Engels 3:37
4. Hocker 3:38
Hilarious that so many posters think Engels has a chance at making the team. Cool guy, would love to see it, but no.
I feel more confident about Hocker than anybody else. Who in the U.S can run a 3:35 with a 1:48 close then come back 2 hours later and run a 13:18 5k? That is unbelievable strength and range he possesses. He is a lock to make the team.
Chaz, Brad, and the Boys wrote:
Hilarious that so many posters think Engels has a chance at making the team. Cool guy, would love to see it, but no.
1:46.14 and 3:33.64 this year. Very legit chances to make the team, maybe even win.
lockitin parlay wrote:
I feel more confident about Hocker than anybody else. Who in the U.S can run a 3:35 with a 1:48 close then come back 2 hours later and run a 13:18 5k? That is unbelievable strength and range he possesses. He is a lock to make the team.
Obviously at his best Hocker is certainly a top 3 guy. But this is his first senior US championship and he has shown some positioning goofs at times that make me hesitant to call him as much of a lock as Centro who is always running well tactically.
Hey dummy, the words were all spelled correctly. They just made no grammatical sense as constructed.
Sopa de Sabadell wrote:
pathfinder wrote:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed. How did these guys get through school?
Does it really matter?
I'm sure your running forum contains no mistakes. Let me check it out really quick and get back to you.
Instead of showing love for the sport and talking about athletes you guys come here to point out spelling mistakes... SMH
Can't bet against Centro making the team considering he has made every team since 2011 and that Rio result.
Manzano had placed top 3 at USAs 10 years in a row, until his 4th at the 2016 Trials.
So, maybe this is the year to end Centro's streak.
But seeing him get flack for running a 1:50 800 in April then running a 1:46 in his next race.
Or the 3:40 1500 followed up with an easy 3:35 low win in his last real race.
And the experience he has going through the rounds and his tactical savvy . . .
You know he's been gearing his fitness to be ready for this week.
Unless there is an injury or a fall, I can't see three people beating him.
Engels looks great. His 3:33 this year was barely mentioned because of Kessler's 3:34 in the same race.
Hocker has everything going and he is obviously sharp right now.
I like them for the top three.
But there are 7 other Americans who have run 3:35 or better this year.
Plus Gregorek who has a 3:49 mile on his resume.
I won't predict a time because the pace of the first two laps is totally unpredictable.
I don't care what the pace is. The good 1500m runners will be the ones with the best kick over the final 500m.
If it's bunched with 600m to go, some talented runners will make the mistake of running wide on the curve or panicking in a box. They won't make the team.
Centro will not panic.
silver spoons wrote:
Hey dummy, the words were all spelled correctly. They just made no grammatical sense as constructed.
Hello retard. The word you are looking for is syntax.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
1. Matt Centrowitz 3:33.0 [39.8]
2. Cole Hocker 3:33.2 [40.2]
3. Yared Nuguse 3:33.4 [40.5]
4. Craig Engels 3:33.7 [40.2]
5. Josh Thompson 3:34.8 [41.0]
6. Waleed Suliman 3:35.0 [41.1]
7. Johnny Gregorek 3:35.6 [42.3]
8. Sam Prakel 3:36.0 [41.8]
9. Henry Wynne 3:36.7 [42.1]
10. Hobbs Kessler 3:36.8 [41.7]
11. Colby Alexander 3:37.2 [42.2]
12. Brannon Kidder 3:40.5 [44.7]
400 - Hocker 56.9
800 - Hocker 1:54.9
1200 - Nuguse 2:52.9
Hocker has closing speed but not the ability to run 3:33 and I'm not even sure if he can do 3:34 or where his training has led him. If it's a fast race that's bad for Cole Hocker.
I think Nugusse/Hocker plus Centro plus Engels is the most accurate prediction from what we have now but this is a sport of surprises. Perhaps, Wynne or Prakel could jump in there .
I'd have to go w/Engels, Nugusse, Centro
Maybe Nuguse will pull off a Jewett.
with the temperature predictions for the day of the final, I struggle to imagine a race won in anything faster than MAYBE 3:38
. How many have peaked too early and are here this week with fitness trending down. 📉Betting Centro planned correctly. You will see a number of 1500 runners sporting new NOP 2022 singlets.
Pretty sure Willis said he thought Goose and Hocker could run 3:32-3
Gonna take his idea over yours
Star wrote:
But there are 7 other Americans who have run 3:35 or better this year.
Plus Gregorek who has a 3:49 mile on his resume.
Gregorek's a mystery. He ran 3:49 for the indoor AR in Boston a few years ago in what was basically a time trial so he clearly can run fast. But he hasn't come anywhere near that fast ever -- he's only gone under 3:36 twice.
Given that record, it's hard to see him being a factor.
Ok7272 wrote:
Hocker has closing speed but not the ability to run 3:33 and I'm not even sure if he can do 3:34 or where his training has led him. If it's a fast race that's bad for Cole Hocker.
You don’t think a guy who can run 3:35.35 by splitting 44.1-62.4-56.6-52.2 has a 3:34 in him? That’s outrageous. He could run 42.5-57.5-57.0-56.0 (3:33.0) quite certainly, maybe even 3:31.x in the right race. His 3:50.55i converts to 3:33.x and that was 4 months ago, and I think he’s improved.
Chaz, Brad, and the Boys wrote:
Hilarious that so many posters think Engels has a chance at making the team. Cool guy, would love to see it, but no.
I don't think you understand that Engels is one of the most tactically savvy racers in the United States. The guy lives in a van down by the river just so he can focus on watching race film every night before bed.
The guy is focused, he's fit, his hair's in great shape, he's going to be a contender.
Some one or two will need to go nuts in the first 300 m to sort them out. The only one who won't react is HK.
Have a look at the crazy first 200 of the 1972 Olympic 800 that allowed Dave Wottle to waltz back and win in an average to slow time. of 1:45.3 or something
Yeah yeah I know its a 1500, but no one wants another jog and kick win in 3:37
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Strava thinks the London Marathon times improved 12 minutes last year thanks to supershoes
NAU women have no excuse - they should win it all at 2024 NCAA XC
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!