Temperature **104 F** in Eugene on Sunday for Finals...

Big Juicy Steak wrote:

Have there been any 10K track races run with sprinklers available in outer lanes? With low humidity that could save serious heat injuries. In sun a tech marvel as Hayward seems to be, it should be a no-brainer.

Yes, I've seen a sprinkler a number of times at the high school level. But I don't think I've ever seen that in a professional race.

An "excessive heat warning" has been issued for Oregon by the national weather service....it would be hard for USATF to shake off liability with this....

My phone is now saying 108 Sunday. Really hope they move the 5k!

RichardRider wrote:

oldoldrunner wrote:

Evolution has occurred since then. Modern militaries pick good weather for battle (D-day). So why throw your self to slaughter when you can pick a smart time to race.

I agree. But the athletes unfortunately dont have control over those decisions. All they can control is their mental and emotional preparation for any situation they are subjected to. Prepare for the worst and any changes for the better are a bonus.

Im just suggesting that people try to think about what has to go through the mind of the athlete going into battle. Evolution or not, the General commands Advance and the soldier advances. Sucks, but it sucks for all equally. We dont have an air conditioned stadium and im not confident those that hold the purse strings give two turds about the athletes.

Good shet

10,000m will go from two sections to one section. Dropouts?

https://usatf.org/news/2021/u-s-olympic-team-trials-track-field-schedule-chang

glad they are doing this! Now I just hope they still broadcast live then, which i imagine they will as NBC has covered even every single shot put throw thus far

And..... they changed to the morning, not evening, because it will be significantly cooler then.

[ thank God for the sake of the athlete's health george aint in charge]

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

I said it earlier but I think NBC would love to just have a morning race and show the highlights during the evening broadcast. NBC basically avoids showing the full race of the 5k, 10k, and the steeple, anyways. They should take advantage of this opportunity to make their broadcast more watchable for their target audience, which appears to be people that know nothing about track and field.

Friday's men's 10,000m race was taped delayed by one hour on the west coast. They can run the upcoming 5K and 10K in the morning and tape delay them to the evening. Showing highlights will not help the target audience. You either enjoy watching distances races or you do not. Showing highlights won't really increase viewers. I was listen to sport radio host Mike Velanti yesterday talked about the Supreme Court ruling and affecting college athletes. His cohost said Olympic years were the one time athletes in sports other than basketball and football have a chance to make money. Mike Valenti basically said he thought the Olympics were a waste of money for the host city and he would like to see the end of the Olympics. I don't think cares about any sports that do not generate millions or billions. He'll never talk about anything other than football, basketball, baseball and hockey because his listeners will turn off his show if he does talk about them. Talking about other sports kills his rating numbers. The general US population will never care about track and field. I thick only a fraction my local community running group even cares about the US Olympic Trials.

5k just moved to 10am

jamese wrote:

That does seem reasonable. But there may be reactions to the sprinklers quite different from what is intended.

Once in the final miles of a very hot marathon 97% a guy in the neighborhood helpfully began spraying runners with his garden hose. A group I was in was like a death march from heat and hallucinations. When the cold water hit me and a couple other guys we nearly passed out. One brave guy went over and grabbed the hose f rye on him. Thermo shock was worse than the heat.

An optional fine mist station along a road race is probably much safer than the a cold and heavy soaking from a garden hose. I have seen a misting station

used at the Crim race where runners can go to one side of the course to run thru the mist.

Postpone the distance races one day from Sunday to Monday and the high is predicted to be down to 93, and hold the races in the evening after sundown. How high are the ratings anyhow?

Nike man wrote:

Hot hot hot wrote:

High of 111 now forecasted for Saturday evening at 6 pm. Sunday high by 3 pm of 107.

That some hot shiz! 🌯🌯🌯🔥🔥🔥

Just another summer day in California’s Central Valley.

The 1500 is at 4:40pm. That's rough if it's going to be 108 degrees Sunday. That's when it's hottest. I was thinking Hobbs Kessler might make it but you're going to need old man strength.

applebys123 wrote:

Will athletes who train in the hot south fair better?

Why would they, when the south doesn't normally get that hot? Not Florida anyhow. Humidity limits temps by blocking sunlight. It also doesn't get as much extra sunlight in summer, being further south. There's Caribbean islands with all-time record highs in the low 90s.

Humidity also limits the ability to cool by sweating, which is vital to surviving when the atmosphere is higher than body temperature.

However the overriding reality is nobody's gonna be ready for that, including the fans. Someone will likely die if they don't postpone it.

And just because I know someone will have a fit "you don't know how hot and humid the south is idiot yada yada" here is the 10-day weather forecast for Miami FL. Temps in the 80's with thunderstorms every single day - unremitting humidity. Humid, yes. Hot, no.

Arizona-type south, hot yes, humid no. They're generally mutually exclusive.

https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/fl/miami

[quote]Bad Wigins wrote:

Arizona-type south, hot yes, humid no. They're generally mutually exclusive.

very good point! I wouldn't say mutually exclusive as I am sure there is some crossover. In either training scenario, your body is struggling to maintain its core temp. But yes, interesting to consider.

Bad Wigins wrote:

applebys123 wrote:

Will athletes who train in the hot south fair better?

Why would they, when the south doesn't normally get that hot? Not Florida anyhow. Humidity limits temps by blocking sunlight. It also doesn't get as much extra sunlight in summer, being further south. There's Caribbean islands with all-time record highs in the low 90s.

Humidity also limits the ability to cool by sweating, which is vital to surviving when the atmosphere is higher than body temperature.

However the overriding reality is nobody's gonna be ready for that, including the fans. Someone will likely die if they don't postpone it.

Huh?

It absolutely gets hot and humid in the South.

100 degrees + 80-90% humidity is a pretty normal summer day here in DC. The humidity is even worse further south.

Look at the 1,500m:

Purrier: Trains in Boston; not necessarily "hot" but usually hotter and more humid than Flagstaff/Boulder/Portland/Seattle.

McGee: Mississippi born and raised, trains there sometimes, probably moreso in 2020. Used to train in Boston, see Purrier.

MaClean: See Purrier.

Hard not to see a trend here.

10:00 a.m. is not good enough when the high temperature will be triple digits. The coolest temperatures are generally found right about when the sun rises. Once the sun is out the temperature will start to spike. At 10 a.m. on Saturday expect the temperature to be at least 80, and probably higher. On Sunday at 10 it will be around 90. Why not 6 a.m? The safety of the athletes comes first.

RyecorDone wrote:

Maybe up to 114 degrees! - according to Ventusky.

Indeed, current forecast 111 F.....this is insane...all for our viewing pleasure?! poor athletes ha