I've seen several women post such things on social media, but I also have a personal friend who thinks "capitalism" is to blame for why she has to work 5 days per week. I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how to explain to her that people doing work is what allows there to be food at the store, electricity, gas at the gas station, etc... Kind of feels like I'm a daddy explaining to his 5 year old why adults go to work each day. My friend is 32 years old and college educated. :/
What would you say?
she might be trolling you
Ask her if going to work five days a week and giving double or triple her current tax rate to .gov so she can get 'free' stuff sounds better.
Teach her about the Holodomor. She likely has never heard of it.
Tell her the old Soviet homily, "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us."
Ask her if she’d rather work twice as much and not get paid for her work.
No one is forcing her to go to work. No gun to her head. She can make the adult decision to go or not go, after weighing the pros and cons.
Many people in America don't go to work. Quite a few even post here regularly.
Your friend is right. What we all need is basic income. Jeff Bezos can pay for it.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/2/19/21112570/universal-basic-income-ubi-map
A women-bashing post on Letsrun? I’m shocked.
i know this one wrote:
A women-bashing post on Letsrun? I’m shocked.
The point was not to bash women. I only mentioned the genders because I've seen probably 10 or so women post something along these lines but have never seen or heard a man say such things, which I find significant and worth thinking about.
bust out the marx and get reading. you might both learn something. lucky for you it's all in the public domain.
anyone who says that socialists seek to abolish work is either stupid or arguing in bad faith. of course people will be required to work under socialism. the point of socialism and marxism is that human labor has value. this value should be owned and distributed among the workers, and not skimmed for profit by the capitalists. that skimming and associated alienation is why your friend and many others hate their 9-5 B.S. jobs.
i know this one wrote:
A women-bashing post on Letsrun? I’m shocked.
It’s not a “women-bashing post”. Gtfo of here
To the OP: because it’s comforting to think that society is to blame for one’s own personal shortcomings
Or maybe it’s more that it’s comforting to deflect from one’s own personal shortcomings by criticizing society as a whole
Whop wrote:
I've seen several women post such things on social media, but I also have a personal friend who thinks "capitalism" is to blame for why she has to work 5 days per week. I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how to explain to her that people doing work is what allows there to be food at the store, electricity, gas at the gas station, etc... Kind of feels like I'm a daddy explaining to his 5 year old why adults go to work each day. My friend is 32 years old and college educated. :/
What would you say?
I would say your understanding of capitalism is very limited.
It IS why work 5 days a week in the US.
(actually capitalism was why we worked 6 days a week,,,,lucky we made a few inroads against it)
Look at all the countries less obsessed with worshipping capitalism than we are moving to to 30 hours weeks.
Why aren't we doing that? Blind fealty to capitalism.
Looks like your girlfriend understands this better than you do. So she is either brighter tan you or simply better educated. Maybe you can learn something from her though.
If you have the time.
Capitalism is why Coupon Clippers do not have to go to work.
Up until mid-to-late 1990's U.S. broker-dealers allowed clients to possess bond & stock certificates with no additional fee. Bond certificates had coupons, usually removed a coupon once every six months from bond certificate. Took coupon to broker-dealer, broker dealer either issued client a check for coupon or deposited funds into account at broker-dealer. Trust fund kids, sons and daughters of 1/2 billionaires and billionaires participate in bond market.
Coupon Clippers today do nothing. Bonds are in account at broker-dealer. Proceeds every six months from bonds simply roll into a money market account at broker-dealer.
Whop wrote:
I've seen several women post such things on social media, but I also have a personal friend who thinks "capitalism" is to blame for why she has to work 5 days per week. I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how to explain to her that people doing work is what allows there to be food at the store, electricity, gas at the gas station, etc... Kind of feels like I'm a daddy explaining to his 5 year old why adults go to work each day. My friend is 32 years old and college educated. :/
What would you say?
I do wonder how we came up with 5 days a week of work.
That being said, has she ever seen a child? THey don't sit around and do nothing. They like to do stuff all the time.
Throughout most of humanity. all creatures were wired to work pretty much non stop to simplys survive.
banned for celebrating Juneteenth wrote:
Whop wrote:
I've seen several women post such things on social media, but I also have a personal friend who thinks "capitalism" is to blame for why she has to work 5 days per week. I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how to explain to her that people doing work is what allows there to be food at the store, electricity, gas at the gas station, etc... Kind of feels like I'm a daddy explaining to his 5 year old why adults go to work each day. My friend is 32 years old and college educated. :/
What would you say?
I would say your understanding of capitalism is very limited.
It IS why work 5 days a week in the US.
(actually capitalism was why we worked 6 days a week,,,,lucky we made a few inroads against it)
Look at all the countries less obsessed with worshipping capitalism than we are moving to to 30 hours weeks.
Why aren't we doing that? Blind fealty to capitalism.
Looks like your girlfriend understands this better than you do. So she is either brighter tan you or simply better educated. Maybe you can learn something from her though.
If you have the time.
Haha, the point was that people have to work under any system in order for the world to go round. "Capitalism" is not to blame for the fact people have to work. As Rojo mentioned, animals (which we are) all work also. As Elon said, if you don't make stuff, then there's no stuff.
FWIW, capitalism is also why we typically work 40hrs per week and not more. People who want to work more can, and people who want to work less can (my friend could work only part time for example). We, collectively as a society, have decided that about 40hrs/week is good. Some people work more, some less, some societies work more, some less. People are pretty free to choose how much or little they want to work. We could collectively work less, but that would also mean less productivity, and GDP/capita is a pretty good metric of well-being. Where the point of diminishing returns lies is of personal opinion.
cmr055 wrote:
i know this one wrote:
A women-bashing post on Letsrun? I’m shocked.
It’s not a “women-bashing post”. Gtfo of here
To the OP: because it’s comforting to think that society is to blame for one’s own personal shortcomings
You're either very dishonest or new here.
The OP has difficulties with women so he knew when he posted his 'all very innocent' thread that folks like Steve the druggie would come back with some misogynistic crap.
The only question now is, does he feel better about it? Have the responses he's received made him feel better about himself?
Invisible Hand wrote:
No one is forcing her to go to work. No gun to her head. She can make the adult decision to go or not go, after weighing the pros and cons.
Many people in America don't go to work. Quite a few even post here regularly.
If you don't own capital and don't work you aren't able to access the market on which the things we need to survive are sold.
You either work or you die - that is a gun to your head, is it not?
Whop wrote:
I've seen several women post such things on social media, but I also have a personal friend who thinks "capitalism" is to blame for why she has to work 5 days per week. I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how to explain to her that people doing work is what allows there to be food at the store, electricity, gas at the gas station, etc... Kind of feels like I'm a daddy explaining to his 5 year old why adults go to work each day. My friend is 32 years old and college educated. :/
What would you say?
I guess it depends what she means by work. If it's to do things that need to be done then no, capitalism is not to blame. But most likely she means why do we all have jobs and yes, the reason is capitalism.
Do you think you are employed because a nice man had some work he needed help with or because he thought he could make money from you?
It’s completely normal - and reasonable - to publicly comment on common examples of negative behaviour that generally comes from men more often than women. We can also all identify it.
So why, when negative behavioural patterns we tend to see more often in women are commented on, do some people take such offence?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon