The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
I don't care for my own health, but I think you are a selfish freeloader who is not playing their part contributing to herd immunity.
The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
I don't care for my own health, but I think you are a selfish freeloader who is not playing their part contributing to herd immunity.
the letter why wrote:
It is remarkable that the same group of idiots who have been against masks, shutdowns, basically any version of disrupting normality in the face of a pandemic are now - when given a simple chance to get things back to normal - refuse to do it. It's incredibly hypocritical, but unfortunately, not surprising.
Yep that's it.
The Unkle wrote:
portsea57 wrote:
Idiot!
There's a well thought out and helpful response.
Can we all agree that the Covid fear campaign has created Pavlovian reaction?
No, you are just an Idiot. That's about it.
some thoughts from a woman wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
I don't care for my own health, but I think you are a selfish freeloader who is not playing their part contributing to herd immunity.
Huh?
What makes me a freeloader? By not getting vaxxed, doesn't that mean I will get (or maybe already had and just don't know it) Covid and thus contribute to herd immunity?
Well, off for a run. Living my life without fear, just as I have for the past 16 months. Not masking. Not calling people who disagree with me idiots, or murderers, or selfish.
The more unvaccinated people there are, the more likely the virus will spread among that population. The more the virus spreads, the more likely we are to get VARIANTS. So far, the vaccines offer good protection against the COVID-19 variants. But it just takes one mutation that beats the vaccines to start a massive outbreak again. And possibly send us back to square one...
The Unkle wrote:
AOL Lawyer wrote:
Let's hope the next pandemic is something with a much higher fatality rate and watch the anti vaxx nuts with interest. Hopefully they stick to their "principles".
I see. And those of us who don't take the vax are the shameful ones!
Anti vaxx nuts are actively campaigning for other people to die needlessly, interestingly they bleat like sheep when someone turns that around.
the letter why wrote:
If there were actual risks associated with getting a vaccine, then it would perhaps be reasonable to weigh pros and cons. But there aren't actually any downsides to getting the COVID vaccine, just conspiracy theories boosted by political plays.
Can you guarantee here, right now, that the "COVID" vaccine is 100% safe? Can you guarantee that no one will suffer a serious adverse event or death from the COVID vaccine?
You say there "aren't actually any downsides" nor "actual risks associated" with the vaccine - what are qualifications to make such a statement? Are you medical doctor? Are you scientist in the medical field? What authority do you have to make such a profound statement?
Unk....
Am I to assume you haven't been vaccinated against the measles, smallpox, or polio? Your kids?
As you are well aware, this has been asked and answered dozens of times on this website.
It goes to herd immunity and suppression of coronavirus and variants - the more people that are immune, the better. Epidemiology 101.
But with respect to you personally, as one or two others have posted, there is an exception. Anyone who has had to read your idiotic posts, no matter where they are on the political spectrum, hopes you never get vaccinated.
The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
Honestly, I don't think many people actually care one way or the other. I think you just need to accept that there is a small group of people that cannot except that everyone does not want the vaccine. Then move on from this and live your life.
You'd be less of a threat to me if you were vaccinated. As you may have read, the vaccines are far from 100% effective at preventing infection. But if enough get vaccinated, we'll achieve the "herd immunity" so sought by certain Repubs. Be like Trump - get vaccinated.
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Can you guarantee here, right now, that the "COVID" vaccine is 100% safe? Can you guarantee that no one will suffer a serious adverse event or death from the COVID vaccine?
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I'm quite sure Covid isn't safe. I can give you 600k examples.
Because they don't trust science or the efficacy of their vaccines.
The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
I wish you would get vaccinated because I care about the health of all humans. I would prefer that you were protected from covid-19.
But since the vaccines are almost 100% effective at preventing death from covid-19, I don't think that you should be forced to be vaccinated.
Being vaccinated is ultimately a choice that benefits your community at large. As someone alluded to in an earlier thread, you are like the guy who leaves his lights on during the London blitz blackouts, saying you're not being one of the sheep...
Maybe you're not a full-fledged a$$hole and you were just testing the waters. How about selfish curmudgeon?
Reasonable Thinker wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
I don't get it.
You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.
What threat am I to you?
I wish you would get vaccinated because I care about the health of all humans. I would prefer that you were protected from covid-19.
But since the vaccines are almost 100% effective at preventing death from covid-19, I don't think that you should be forced to be vaccinated.
Another reason that I wish you would get vaccinated is to prevent the emergence of strains that could escape immunity. The fewer virus particles there are, the less likelihood of immune escape.
Cleveland Clinic said you do not need a vaccine if you have already been infected.
CDC says 114 Million Americans have been infected as of mid-April.
What a scam. Makes Bernie Madoff look like a pesky flea.
the letter why wrote:
I know you are just trolling.
However, the obvious answer is one that's easily available to you. Consider why schools require vaccines for certain diseases. Many people have health issues that prevent them from getting vaccines. Vaccines are also not 100% effective. If everyone is vaccinated, the possibility that a disease can transmit to one of these vulnerable groups is basically zero. If everyone just got vaccinated (a pipe dream, sure) COVID would disappear - instead it will linger for years.
If there were actual risks associated with getting a vaccine, then it would perhaps be reasonable to weigh pros and cons. But there aren't actually any downsides to getting the COVID vaccine, just conspiracy theories boosted by political plays.
So am I worried about my own health because you won't get vaccinated? Not particularly. Am I worried that the enormous number of people who refuse to get vaccinated will lead to another surge of Covid later this summer or fall and kill thousands more? Pretty much. Do I have any hope that you and millions of Americans will stop being complete idiots? Unfortunately no.
It is remarkable that the same group of idiots who have been against masks, shutdowns, basically any version of disrupting normality in the face of a pandemic are now - when given a simple chance to get things back to normal - refuse to do it. It's incredibly hypocritical, but unfortunately, not surprising.
Also - variants. By not getting the vacccine you’re contributing to the virus mutating and this itself will also prolong the pandemic and kill more people.
Trying to explain science to an anti-vaxxer is like trying to teach calculus to a golden retriever. They just don’t have the capacity to get it.
They're developing booster shots for hysterical ppl like yourself who are terrified of covid cootie variants. If you're not feeling fully ensconced in safety/security with your 98%+ effective vaccine. Or, maybe you should just take control of whatever health risk factors (inactive, fat, diabetes) you may have to cut your risk of death down to near zero even without vaccines or boosters.