Ryan Hall- the body builder

Runningart2004 wrote:

Probably TRT. It's probably even prescribed for his supposed "low T".

You don't go from having elite distance running genetics to looking like he does and lifting what he does naturally. And that's fine. We all should be on TRT.

Alan

Hey Alan, can you tell me more about TRT and why we should be on it. I'm a mid to late 30s dude. I don't know much about it. Doesn't that make your body stop producing it' s own test?

Remember when

Ryan was "being coached by God."

His running went straight down the toilet.

I assume God is involved in this abomination also.

This might be evidence that omnipotent does not make one w good coach or personal trainer.

But maybe God just has a soft spot for the nutcases.

Runningart2004 wrote:

testosteronedoesit wrote:

Is he taking TRT/HGH?

Probably TRT. It's probably even prescribed for his supposed "low T".

You don't go from having elite distance running genetics to looking like he does and lifting what he does naturally. And that's fine. We all should be on TRT.

Alan

Right “low” T. But I agree. You don’t improve that quickly and look like that off 4 days at the gym.

jonathon wrote:

Just a thought... Ryan stopped running professionally, and refused to do TRT to combat his low T. He said his low T was a prime cause in him retiring.

But people think he's taking TRT now? Interesting.

I think you're making the case that he is on TRT, right?

He had low T. He couldn't get his low T treated and legally compete, so he retired. Now...

lol All you ectomorph puny boys saying he has to be on TRT HGH etc. are projecting. I went from 128 to 207 in a couple of years from 220 grams of protein a day and using a modified version of Ronnie Coleman's program. Hall looks like he weighs maybe 190 in those pics? Any average guy can get there you just need discipline diet and exercise.

R Earl wrote:

lol All you ectomorph puny boys saying he has to be on TRT HGH etc. are projecting. I went from 128 to 207 in a couple of years from 220 grams of protein a day and using a modified version of Ronnie Coleman's program. Hall looks like he weighs maybe 190 in those pics? Any average guy can get there you just need discipline diet and exercise.

It's not just about the weight. It's about the leanness at that weight with very impressive lifting numbers from a "new" lifter who predominately has slow twitch muscle fibers.

R Earl wrote:

lol All you ectomorph puny boys saying he has to be on TRT HGH etc. are projecting. I went from 128 to 207 in a couple of years from 220 grams of protein a day and using a modified version of Ronnie Coleman's program. Hall looks like he weighs maybe 190 in those pics? Any average guy can get there you just need discipline diet and exercise.

This

Hall doesn't even look that big. He's just put on muscle with dedicated training.

The average 150lbs runner could do that with ease.

Runners like Andy Vernon or Chris Solinksy could be absolute tanks if they wanted to be.

R Earl wrote:

lol All you ectomorph puny boys saying he has to be on TRT HGH etc. are projecting. I went from 128 to 207 in a couple of years from 220 grams of protein a day and using a modified version of Ronnie Coleman's program. Hall looks like he weighs maybe 190 in those pics? Any average guy can get there you just need discipline diet and exercise.

+1. Hall is a Christian, end it is unlikely that he would use performance-enhancing products. He always advocates clean living, diet and so forth with his wife and adopted children.

Did you include the steroids Ronnie Coleman admitted to using? No way to put on 80 pounds of muscle in a few years unless you are in your late teens/early 20s without steroids.

That said, Hall isn’t massive and looks a bit strange with his small head, but he looks better than he did as a runner. I personally think 160-170 lean at 6’ is an optimal weight. I’m 150, but also older and happily married.

Ghost1 wrote:

+1. Hall is a Christian, end it is unlikely that he would use performance-enhancing products. He always advocates clean living, diet and so forth with his wife and adopted children.

You may be right, the Halls may avoid anything like that. But I'm in the same Christian circles they're in and supplements from mild to super kooky are a big part of the scene. As long as something is "natural" (i.e., unregulated, untested, and uncertain), we'll stick anything in our bodies if someone tells us it's natural .

"Natural" and "bioidentical" hormones from compounding pharmacies are popular. Somehow that's different from getting the same molecule from Big Pharma.

Again, maybe he's taking nothing. He's not that big and what he's done is well within the range of what someone can do naturally. But people certainly do take stuff while still believing they are "clean living".

Waitforit4 wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Probably TRT. It's probably even prescribed for his supposed "low T".

You don't go from having elite distance running genetics to looking like he does and lifting what he does naturally. And that's fine. We all should be on TRT.

Alan

Hey Alan, can you tell me more about TRT and why we should be on it. I'm a mid to late 30s dude. I don't know much about it. Doesn't that make your body stop producing it' s own test?

You would have to be on a very high dose of Test for a long time before that happens. I would guess many high level competitive runners have borderline low T levels, especially as they age. Low T is a sign of overtraining. Given the low muscle mass and general chronic overtraining that affects most high level runners it would be easy to see how Hall was diagnosed with low T. Take a low T individual, stop the activity that perpetuates that Low T, add TRT, abuse TRT....and we have what we see with Hall today.

Alan

Velocibuddha wrote:

Remember when

Ryan was "being coached by God."

His running went straight down the toilet.

I assume God is involved in this abomination also.

This might be evidence that omnipotent does not make one w good coach or personal trainer.

But maybe God just has a soft spot for the nutcases.

you did watch ryan farmer carry his own body weight for a mile before you heckled him right? what you got?

check this video talker-

https://www.instagram.com/p/COOTrVrDVQx/

I can understand why Ryan is so into lifting now. He spent most of his adult life training and racing. He was always studying the effect of training on his performance metrics. That is probably what got him out of bed in the morning. The promise of building a better running machine. Weight lifting gives him the same sort of purpose that running did.

I wish he would go for more of a functional strength cross fit or obstacle racing fitness. Power lifting and body building just make you into a big pile of muscle meat.

13:41 uphill wearing a 20 pound weighted vest

He really, really needs to be the center of attention.

taunter of symmonds wrote:

Velocibuddha wrote:

Remember when

Ryan was "being coached by God."

His running went straight down the toilet.

I assume God is involved in this abomination also.

This might be evidence that omnipotent does not make one w good coach or personal trainer.

But maybe God just has a soft spot for the nutcases.

you did watch ryan farmer carry his own body weight for a mile before you heckled him right? what you got?

Who is Ryan Farmer?

Don't care what stupid sh#t he may or may not do.

My complaint is this.

Straight men are into doing things.

Running fast. Swimming fast. Playing soccer well. Or football. Whatever.

It is OK that gay men want to look pretty. Have pretty muscles.

Engage in fake competition that prove how pretty they are.

But don't talk about how manly you are because- "I have these pretty, pretty muscles."

Ryan Hall was a great runner but he is a complete fool.

He has makes God look like an idiot. And makes heterosexual Christianity a stupid cover for flamboyant homo-eroticism.

Am I the only one worried that Ryan may succumb to that terrible affliction that occasionaly will grip athletes that bulk up too much and start questioning their birth gender assignment and decide to change their pronouns becuase this seems like the fadish thing to do?

Runningart2004 wrote:

testosteronedoesit wrote:

Is he taking TRT/HGH?

Probably TRT. It's probably even prescribed for his supposed "low T".

You don't go from having elite distance running genetics to looking like he does and lifting what he does naturally. And that's fine. We all should be on TRT.

Alan

Ryan isn't "big boned," but he did have a much larger frame at his record-setting marathon weight than you'd expect. You can just look at those photos, and see that his body SHOULD weight quite a bit more.

I ran with a guy long ago like this. He had a "fat face," but weighed next to nothing. Twenty years on, he weighs an additional 120, and his face looks the same.