Ross Tucker on Gidey's new WR: It’s almost as if world records don’t mean as much as they used to

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FWIW Corvette - yeah not much controversy or suspicion around those early guys. But Elliot was what, 1960? Snell 64. Kinda reinforces my point that we have to go back so far to get to a place where people aren't quibbling about this stuff. Like there are multiple athletes on the startling in Florence later today whose parents weren't even born when Snell won eg Gjert Ingebritsen was born in 1966.

Anyway, as I said in my original post, I love this sport and will always try balance my enjoyment while not sticking my head in the sand. A big part of that though is still not getting my feathers all ruffled about the sanctity of the sport and records over things like spikes.

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FWIW Corvette - yeah not much controversy or suspicion around those early guys. But Elliot was what, 1960? Snell 64. Kinda reinforces my point that we have to go back so far to get to a place where people aren't quibbling about this stuff. Like there are multiple athletes on the startling in Florence later today whose parents weren't even born when Snell won eg Gjert Ingebritsen was born in 1966.

Anyway, as I said in my original post, I love this sport and will always try balance my enjoyment while not sticking my head in the sand. A big part of that though is still not getting my feathers all ruffled about the sanctity of the sport and records over things like spikes.

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Also, "they would certainly be sub 3:30 runners today" is a hypothesis (estimate), and in any case they'd need to run sub 3:26 to beat today's WR.

Peptides peptides peptides peptides ..........

Sprints is filthy with them ,. The Speed pep.

And now have a new peptide making them even faster , certain ncaa 200m runner

or obvious women's 100m

in past all largely the taller sprinter ,

now these and again obvious ,

moving that bit more easy and smooth.

Snell and Ryan etc were the steroid era ,

obvious as can be , .

Shoes are one thing and the perfect cover for doping just like wada was ,

and can't blame Russians now .

800m , 1500m such distance showing what shoes can do in terms of times ,

but when get way past 3.30 you know not the shoes ,

Assuming not the track either , anywhere outside of Monaco and some other tracks.

As for endurance ,

likely a Ppar receptor agonist of some kind.

the fact can't make up as much time over 5000m or 3000m records suggest can't push speed same as epo era but far surpasses it's endurance longer goes .

the same managers and agents as always ,

look to team sky or whatever like to call

in cycling ,

Bernal was finished , said was his back , yeah totally bent over a bike ,

brought back from mediocrity by this stuff ,

at one stage in giro , was at Mountain finish happily pedaling in massive gear like nothing.

More disturbing is how these new Peds get dished out ,

definitely pick certain athletes and coming straight from big pharma .

Picked female to break women's marathon

and then the two Ugandans ,

Important that straight from pharma as research drug , so legally can never be done.

Here such example ,

Remember the base ped in track now for many is the speed Peptide ,

Know what it can do , cheaper and alot

easier to get even from maybe 3-4 years ago

Sprints obviously but many in longer distances avail of this speed too.

The more cutting edge exotic peds are for few and usually who know , dished out by certain managers , agents

Doping all about timing... ....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/26/sports/doping-thomas-mann-peptides.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwiq5ZjFo43xAhUJ6RoKHYliDVoQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0kmdNRNdvOV08K63xUn8TZ&ampcf=1

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Ayana took 14 seconds off the last 10k WR - what cheating method caused this huge drop in time? Why does nobody blame the Vic 3's which had just came out on that WR being broken? I am not sure why you can only blame Dragonflies when a WR gets taken down out of nowhere.

In reality, it should not be all that surprising to anyone who's been paying attention that runners like Hassan and Gidey are breaking records - Hassan has been running stupid fast times for years now and Gidey is young but has always shown talent, it's not like either of them are coming out of nowhere.

Lmao Ayana was clearly heavily doped up. She made breaking a ridiculous former WR look easy in the heat of Brazil. Use your brain. The Victory was not a big change in shoe technology.