Fauci warns of COVID-19 Delta variant now spreading rapidly in U.K.: 'We cannot let that happen in the United States'

Given the wide spread in vaccination rate as well as previous infection rate between countries and regions, I think we will learn a lot more about the conditions required for sustaining the epidemic in the upcoming months.

Thinking about herd immunity, we may learn roughly what rate of vaccination is required given the number of previously infected and vaccinated people and the efficacy of vaccination as well as the efficacy of previous infections in preventing Covid infection

Anti-vaxxers can't help but back down on the Fauci/Gates/Soros/Pharma/5G mind control/global slavery/ sci-fi-movie-comes-to-life narrative, even as the vaccine proves to be effective. And yet they project on the supposed Fauci/pro-vaxx crowd as fear mongering, just because they say variants are still a threat (they are, clearly, to the unvaxxed)? Are medical leaders supposed to sit by silent as pockets of society are harmed or are they supposed to say "everything's great!" to appease your suspicions??

I've been on Letsrun for 20 years and have never been more confused and disappointed by the vehement level of anti-vaxx narratives spewed here by a subset of posters. Are you runners? Did you run in HS/College? Why are you posting/hanging out here???

I've never interacted with runners online or in person who are so easily manipulated by agendas and profoundly idiotic and unscientific positions. It's continually laughable to read what Unkle, Steve and many of you purport to be true. You would have been laughed out the door in any previous era for having such unfounded and stupid positions. But thanks to the internet and the unregistered abyss here, you can *thankfully* spew BS to everyone and handjob each other in online echo chambers about the next conspiracy that will ruin society.

Truly astounding how unintelligent, gullible and narcissistic the internet has allowed stupid people to become.

The vaccines are only as good as the variants that are weaken by them.

One wrong turn, one crazy spike protein, and we are back at square one..esp if it leads to higher fatalities or affects children more.

People don't realize we are not out of the woods till the majority f the planet is immunized.

So go ahead and keep hating on Fauci for telling us to be careful.

Big +1

Every critical opinion against vaccination is violently attacked and labeled as "no vax" and enemy of the "science". This is censure.

What kind of world is this becoming?

A vaccine pass to travel or go to a concert?

A vaccine boost every year or even less?

Vaccinating kids before we're 100% sure that it's safe?

Vaccinating milions of people because of a virus created in a Chinese lab financed by USA?

I firmly believe that there's enough to be more than suspicious about the vaccination campaign. There's nothing idiotic in having a different opinion and you should be very scared about what's happening to freedom.

Troll much?

Will Pfizer, Moderna and J&J give back the money they were paid for at least 114 Million (per CDC, as of mid-April). unnecessary vaccines ? See the news from Cleveland Clinic today.

And yes, I am a runner. Slow as hell with the temp at 85 F today (28:40 5K). but acceptable for my advanced age of 61.

Did you know that for every 1,000 COVID-19 infections, there will be a grand total of 1 (one, un, uno) death in the under 65 age group ?

Hope_less wrote:

Every critical opinion against vaccination is violently attacked and labeled as "no vax" and enemy of the "science". This is censure.

What kind of world is this becoming?

A vaccine pass to travel or go to a concert?

A vaccine boost every year or even less?

Vaccinating kids before we're 100% sure that it's safe?

Vaccinating milions of people because of a virus created in a Chinese lab financed by USA?

I firmly believe that there's enough to be more than suspicious about the vaccination campaign. There's nothing idiotic in having a different opinion and you should be very scared about what's happening to freedom.

The idiotic thing is maintaining a dogmatic opinion despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Vaccinating kids, for example. COVID poses a small but evident risk to kids -- they are hospitalized for it, etc. There are also public health benefits to herd immunity.

Thus we just need to judge the risk vs. reward of the vaccine. Given the sterling safety record of the mRNA vaccines the choice to recommend them is clear, especially since we are running/have run clinical trials to assess safety further in children.

So yeah, if you refuse to update your position on new evidence, then you're being dumb -- especially if you cry about being made fun of online.

+10000

DanM wrote:

Will Pfizer, Moderna and J&J give back the money they were paid for at least 114 Million (per CDC, as of mid-April). unnecessary vaccines ? See the news from Cleveland Clinic today.

And yes, I am a runner. Slow as hell with the temp at 85 F today (28:40 5K). but acceptable for my advanced age of 61.

Did you know that for every 1,000 COVID-19 infections, there will be a grand total of 1 (one, un, uno) death in the under 65 age group ?

Vaccines confer a stronger immune response than prior infection. That may very well be useful for sterilizing immunity (the recent paper only looked at symptomic infections in recovered +/- vaccine) individuals, for immune durability, and for resistance to variants.

Don't over-react to one study just because it confirms some random prior you have.

Deaths are not the only negative outcome of a COVID infection. Hospitalizations, chronic damage, missed work, even just feeling crappy for weeks!

Horse apples. I have not gotten Covid, nobody in my house, my job, my neighborhood has gotten Covid after it raged and surged for fifteen months. Now they tell us cases are way down. And now you are telling me I will get it? Why? Why now?

As nobody around me has gotten the virus , how is it exactly that I am "fueling the problem"?

It's all BS. The story has been written. They are pretending the vaccines have basically knocked it out now, but I predict that come the Fall we will be told there is a variant or somehow the non vaccined have cause a surge. They did not cause one for 5-6 months. But now it is surging.

You are mindlessly repeating the official lies that have been used for this massive campaign of fear.

The Unkle wrote:

I predict that come the Fall we will be told there is a variant or somehow the non vaccined have cause a surge.

😂😂😂

Here’s your cute, little playbook:

1) Refuse recommended action that aims to limit spread/surges (get vaccinated/wear masks/limit travel)

2) Ignore the obvious possibility that going against public health recommendations might have negative consequences

3) Make tinfoil claim like above - “Watch, there will be a surge!!!” (as scientists predict)

4) Blame Fauci/oligarchs when negative consequences do occur (can’t be your idiotic actions after all, right? 😂)

5) Say “I told you so”

Rinse and repeat with you 🤡

This is what pre-teen boys do when they rationalize their bad choices. So violently immature 😂

There is a long divide between idiotic, unfounded conspiratory hype and censure of free speech. And this is a running website - why is this the place to trot out the next "what-if" about the global takeover? Everything you listed, besides vaccinating minors, is a complete assumption with no certainty of fruition.

A functioning, educated and balanced society should be able to moderate those two. The internet has allowed free speech of all kinds to flourish, but some if it is completely worthless and unbearably cretanic. I'm not interested in censuring anyone for having a dissenting opinion about the virus or the development of the vaccine, but what needs to be cleaned up is the conspiracy bullsh*t, nwo, freedom-taking and general distrust and misanthropic view of mankind from a middle-aged (likely middle-class) white guy on the internet. You have better ways to spend your short time on earth and better ways to help those around you, today.

Yes, I saw the Cleveland Clinic headline on my news feed. For someone whose posted a lot of disingenuous, utterly false and anti-MSM things here over the last year, you sure jumped on a MSM clickbait headline quick. It's interesting how quickly people with shallow, unfounded beliefs betray their positions for the notion of being right.

Pharma, like them or not, will not give you or anyone anything. They were paid, by our gov, to provide a solution; they did, and their job is done. Despite your disdain for pharma/big business, doesn't it seem anti-american to force the hand of a simple, capitalist transaction?

16 months later and you're still trying to leverage the 99% survival rate as your foundation? There's more than 99% survival rate for everyone who has taken the vax - and no long haulers, no major sickness issues hiding below that singular statistic. You spend enough time here and online to know that no one with a moral or ethical compass respects the 99% statement as a real talking point regarding solutions and moving forward as humanity.

And you, are you a runner? Were you? Why are you here?

Since last Spring you've breathlessly represented yourself as the ultimate stooge of uneducated, unfounded and personally-biased outlook on something that has killed and affected millions. I'm curious how much longer you'll project the empty claim that it's "ALL A HOAX" because you/your acquaintances/your version reality hasn't had to deal with it personally.

It's incredible to watch your posts shower the boards, lacking facts or veracity, only to be swatted down with statistics, proof and reason by 2600 and Harambe. All you can do is pivot and avoid; never anything of substance to counter the deluge of truth you're confronted with, daily.

If you're so smart, so ahead of the rest of us intellectually and so in-the-know because of what you read on the internet: then why does every degreed medical professional stand together, acknowledging covid's legitimacy, danger, and asking cretins like you to just sacrifice a small part of your life to improve humanity.

So: Do will you wholeheartedly agree that you therefore distrust medicine completely? That's LITERALLY what your belief represents and why myself and hundreds of people reading this think you're an absolute clown of a human for not being able to man up and get on with your life.

I'm guessing you're in the second half of your time on earth. Hopefully the reality of time, what counts and legacy matter to you and the other know-it-all, conspiratory keyboard warriors here. Stop wasting time on Letsrun, do something better for society and move on. The rest of us are.

the macdaddy og wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

I predict that come the Fall we will be told there is a variant or somehow the non vaccined have cause a surge.

😂😂😂

😂

🤡

This is what pre-teen boys do 😂

Ah yes, using emoticons to convey emotions because they don't know how to use words.

Harambe wrote:

Yawn^3 wrote:

But if your nightmare scenario includes a vaccine resistant strain what do you propose to do?

Can’t live in fear all day while people are not allowed to live free.

That would be bad. The blame would rest firmly on the unvaccinated morons who have allowed the virus to continue to circulate at appreciable levels.

Delta seems quite vulnerable to vaccines still, even if the response is weaker than other strains. They're holding the line still!

Anti-vaxxers would love nothing more than a vaccine resistant strain to emerge, kill 100s of thousands, all so they could whine and cry some more. Pathetic!

Perhaps you meant to write that you would rest the blame firmly on the unvaccinated morons. Because the research doesn't support anything else at the moment.

Trying to force people into medical experiments caused the internet church ladies to cross from mere self-righteous sadism to outright anti-human criminality.

Over a year ago when it became apparent that COVID was a serious pandemic, I wondered why we weren't doing human challenge trials. Finally, 3.7 million deaths later, it's being done... not by Fauci and the US, but in the UK.

A human challenge trial purposely infects subjects who are at low risk of severe effects and determines the efficacy of the preventive. GaviDotOrg reports that 38,000 people have volunteered for these studies. The first study will be only 90 subjects. Some will be the control group. Some will get a vaccine first.

Unfortunately, the study will only test the efficacy of vaccines, not promising preventives.

We should have started these tests 14 months ago with the preventives on the table at the time... vitamin D3 and hydroxychloroquine... and then another human challenge with Ivermectin when it emerged as a promising preventive.

To date, clinical trials on vaccines have relied on the random chance of exposure. It works, but it requires tens of thousands of people and takes several months. A human challenge trial on vitamin D3 could be finished in 30 days once the test subjects reached the desired blood level of D3.

I forgot to post the link. Here it is.

the macdaddy og wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

I predict that come the Fall we will be told there is a variant or somehow the non vaccined have cause a surge.

😂😂😂

Here’s your cute, little playbook:

1) Refuse recommended action that aims to limit spread/surges (get vaccinated/wear masks/limit travel)

2) Ignore the obvious possibility that going against public health recommendations might have negative consequences

3) Make tinfoil claim like above - “Watch, there will be a surge!!!” (as scientists predict)

4) Blame Fauci/oligarchs when negative consequences do occur (can’t be your idiotic actions after all, right? 😂)

5) Say “I told you so”

Rinse and repeat with you 🤡

This is what pre-teen boys do when they rationalize their bad choices. So violently immature 😂

So I predict -- not a surge, but a claim of a surge will be made this fall -- and you assert scientists predict this surge as well but also that it is a "tinfoil" claim. Very consistent attack. Where do scientists predict a surge this fall? Why is it a tinfoil claim when I make it but science when they do?

And Big Pharma, which it increasingly appears to have created the virus, has no blame for Covid. But I do.

You claim I say "I told you so". Doesn't this mean I was right? Can you show me where I did this.