LETESENBET GIDEY RESPONDS TO SIFAN HASSAN AND BREAKS 10K WR, RUNS 29:01.03!!

Turtle soup. We've truly entered the realm of the absurd.

With these sorts of records, I can't tell whether to be impressed or disgusted.

When the old Wang Junxia record was very likely achieved by doping and couldn't be broken for 23 years by runners like Cheruiyot, Defar, Dibaba, etc., it seems likely that something has changed other than just new talent coming along. Maybe it's only a change in technology and training rather than doping that let Ayana, Hassan, and Gidey break the old record, but it's hard to feel confident given all of the doping positives over the years.

Points to obvious wrote:

norwegiannectar wrote:

Almost as ridiculous as those Norwegian athletes - the 400m hurdler and the Ingiwhatshiface. We know those col weather people can't run fast like that naturally!

Awwww. Butthurt? Its really too bad those Norwegian athletes are getting a shytload of testing off season...unlike your shady characters there

Lol x2. YOU are the one coming off butthurt! "Shady", huh? Interesting word choice.

Didn't Jakob run faster than or at least as fast as nearly all of the junior African athletes past/presentwho are known age cheats and accused of being "doped-to-the-gill"drug cheats by everyone like you?? YES! So how is that exactly possible then? I'd love to hear your explanation on how he has destroyed so many African drug cheats at the tender age of 19 or 20, without using inconsistent standards or coming off as a hypocrite. You can't. And what about Warholm??? So he is just naturally faster than all of the American Sprint / hurdle champions in history at 400m hurdles, most of whom I'm sure you think were Big Time drug cheats. Explain it? You can't. [ unless you fall back on some white power trip]

Either the Norwegians are clean AND many or even most of their competitors past and present are /have been clean , OR... they are dopers too. Your choice. Them being so fast [ and being Champions or near champions] in a support that is supposedly so rife with doping and where doping gives such a huuuuge advantage has presented people like you with quite the Dilemma, eh?

For any baseball fans out there, this reminds me of Bonds v Gagne (2003-4). Maybe it's the drugs, but super entertaining regardless. BTW, if anybody wants to watch arguably the greatest single at bat in MLB history (one of no real importance, however), watch Bonds v Gagne 9th inning 4/16/04.

i dont follow track and field like i once did,mostly because i dont believe what im seeing,or reading about.Its become way too bizarre,and i think close to 100% of elite athletes are on something.The excuse "oh they often get tested" is given,but im not buying it.Im pretty sure a lot of positive results are covered up,or ignored,because it would kill the sport if it got out.

I wish I knew how to feel wrote:

With these sorts of records, I can't tell whether to be impressed or disgusted.

When the old Wang Junxia record was very likely achieved by doping and couldn't be broken for 23 years by runners like Cheruiyot, Defar, Dibaba, etc., it seems likely that something has changed other than just new talent coming along. Maybe it's only a change in technology and training rather than doping that let Ayana, Hassan, and Gidey break the old record, but it's hard to feel confident given all of the doping positives over the years.

Psssst..... there are new shoe technologies that improve running energy efficiency /give improved energy return. Psssst.... this is a well-known fact now. The same thing happened in swimming with the swimsuits. Record books were Rewritten. The suits were banned. Psssst..... you might want to look into all this. Quite interesting really.

There is something seriously wrong with the times some athletes are running. I don't know if it's the shoes, not testing for PEDs, tracks have gotten shorter or what. But there is something wrong with the last spate of times across the globe.

Yeah ok brainiac. It doesn't matter who is better at the moment than some "doped up" times or not. People may dope, they may have high talent, they may train like crazy, they may train right, they may have incredible willpower, and there can be a combination of any of those. I don't care about comparing times. I care that there is EQUAL testing for all athletes throughout the damn year. It is NOT happening. You will continue to hear these things until this situation is remedied.

astro wrote:

And yet none of those Chinese records and wins were ever expunged. If they cannot catch one of the most blatant acts of state sponsored doping since East Germany, they will virtually never catch individualized doping.

You can't compare China (a story of 6 years with an implied coach) with 50 years of African dominance.

The west created their own rules and they are falling to them.

Wise Old Man wrote:

For any baseball fans out there, this reminds me of Bonds v Gagne (2003-4). Maybe it's the drugs, but super entertaining regardless. BTW, if anybody wants to watch arguably the greatest single at bat in MLB history (one of no real importance, however), watch Bonds v Gagne 9th inning 4/16/04.

Cool story, bro. Do you know what it reminds ME of? When after a long decline in home runs , suddenly halfway through one season home run totals exploded and continued to do so for the next few years. Obviously the only rational explanation was that the balls had changed and had more bounce off the bat. Get some could only talk about launch angle. Like it could happened overnight with nearly every player in the league.

Balls with more bounce/energy return = more home runs

Shoes with more bounce/ energy return = faster times

No the times matter. because if a clean runner beating all the doped-up athletes who are also incredibly talented , with great willpower, great motivation, and work extremely hard was possible, then..... it would appear that doping is not such an important factor in running fast or breaking records. And it has always been the " unbelievable !" Fast Times run by the Africans [or American/Jamaican black sprinters]which makes everyone freak out and declare that clearly these are " fake /fictional/fairy tale" drug induced times. Then.... some white Norwegians beat all those times and Destroy nearly all of the African or African American runners and suddenly it's....." no those are believable times. they are just very talented with good genetics and clearly work hard." C'mon, it's funny, and you know it.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

For any baseball fans out there, this reminds me of Bonds v Gagne (2003-4). Maybe it's the drugs, but super entertaining regardless. BTW, if anybody wants to watch arguably the greatest single at bat in MLB history (one of no real importance, however), watch Bonds v Gagne 9th inning 4/16/04.

Cool story, bro. Do you know what it reminds ME of? When after a long decline in home runs , suddenly halfway through one season home run totals exploded and continued to do so for the next few years. Obviously the only rational explanation was that the balls had changed and had more bounce off the bat. Get some could only talk about launch angle. Like it could happened overnight with nearly every player in the league.

Balls with more bounce/energy return = more home runs

Shoes with more bounce/ energy return = faster times

Juiced balls, juiced players, for sure. Still it was fun to watch. I love watching these athletes run incredibly fast and don't worry too much as long as they all have access to the same advantages. I believe they do and all avail themselves in equal measure. Bonds was the best and so are Gidey and Hassan. Too hard to compare eras and records across time. It is a fool's errand. I encourage people to stop obsessing and enjoy the ride.

nikeman wrote:

When was the last time any of these athletes had an out of competition drug test? This whole meet is ridiculous.

No it's the shoes! The shoes. I guess we say the spikes now.

As soon as the other elites get these spikes, there's gonna be a whole slew of 29 flats.

Lol. And how exactly do you know these doped up athletes are extremely gifted? You think the Chinese women were extremely gifted? Without the hyperjuice, they were nothing after that.

No. To be fair to everyone, a person who can stay away from testing 4-6 months longer than another one must be looked at as extremely suspicious. It's ridiculous.

Remember when Wang Junxia’s 29:31 record seemed incredible and unbeatable?

I still don’t think it was a full 10,000m because of final 3k of 8:21.

Wise Old Man wrote:

For any baseball fans out there, this reminds me of Bonds v Gagne (2003-4). Maybe it's the drugs, but super entertaining regardless. BTW, if anybody wants to watch arguably the greatest single at bat in MLB history (one of no real importance, however), watch Bonds v Gagne 9th inning 4/16/04.

According to both that was planned the year before on a Japan tour. If the game isn’t in the line 100 mph down the middle let’s see whom it s better. Bonds was able to homer.

On the roads, women have been running 65 halfs with 104:31 being the mixed gender half record. So, if women are running just under a 5 min mile for 13.1, it is pretty obvious that the WR for 10k is going down. Add in the shoes and a sub 30 10k is going to be the new norm on the track.

Blahahahahahaaaaaaa!!! Good grief - what next!?

If it is just the shoes why did she lap everyone else in the race? What we are witnessing is late 90s style epo use. Throw in lights and shoes for good measure and we have sub 29 performances.