Over analysis goes with the territory.
I think illness is a credible explanation given how off the times were and how the runners looked. But that is the luck of the draw. Bad timing but no one gets a do over.
Over analysis goes with the territory.
I think illness is a credible explanation given how off the times were and how the runners looked. But that is the luck of the draw. Bad timing but no one gets a do over.
Tyynismaa is a sophomore, been running college since 2019, Man why is it so hard for you to accept that the kid owns the best times as a real freshman?
semihaze wrote:
Tuohy is a god wrote:
This is supposedly the best high school runner ever? If this was any other high school runner in their first college season you could say she had a good season. But she only had a PR in one event...... a two second PR in the 1500m. She was not even close to PRing in the 3000 and 5000! Not a good start, and not worthy of the numerous threads about how great she is?!?!?!
i see that this type of reaction is common in here,
which obviously comes from jealousy
hello, i am a fangirl of KT, not like the most adults here in this thread
so, by the way, this thread was made to discuss about her improvements after knee surgery, after rehab, after her longest break from running, after maturing, after being in a new environment, new teammates, relationships new everything
and with an immense pressure to do well
now stop acting like katelyn did not mature, had knee surgery, had long break, and many more struggles she had to overcome to be able to run those times this year
she had it harder than other freshman runners, and the fact that she still had the best times as a true freshman tells you she's worth every thread here, and for you it may be not, no ones forcing you to be here by the way everyone here weren't forced to be here so if you're mad about this thread then you're just jealous she gets attention
the way you said she just pr 2 seconds in 1500m, is as if katelyn ran 2:14 her senior year, no she
didn't ran that in her senior year, she ran that 3 years ago, at her speed peak .. and the fact that she now runs 4:12 after just 3 months of running again.. after the knee surgery and long break, makes me and other running fans hopeful of her future, her healthy peers who has been training longer dont even run that kind of time
okay you're concerned about the 3000m, that was february 2021 , she ran two 3k in one week.
did you know that the 3000m race was her first ever race in s long and her first race as a college student? the goal of it was to make her feel what it feels to race again and to asses where she was fitness wise, going into the xc season where she finished as the top freshman at 24th (and the only fr in top 45)
on february 19 she ran 9:19 - 5:01 mile pace
on february 25 she ran 9:20 - 5:02 mile pace
less than 3 months after those races she ran
4:12 at 1500m - 4:30 mile pace
4:12 converts to 8:56 3000m
you dont have to be a genius to know that its an impressive jump, and you dont have to be a genius to realize that katelyn is on the right track and is developing quite well
in 5000m she ran 15:47 and 15:50 and then the bad day at regionals
- when she ran 15:47 on april, she was so winded and out of breath
- when she ran 15:50 on may, she was not winded, smiling and calmly finished as if it was a jog
its not about her breaking her own hs records, but about improvements and progress
some people still get baffled why she gets attention,
her stats this season is an enough reason,
but it is also simply because she is katelyn tuohy
people support and cheer for her and will defend her from trolls and
no matter what the results, bad or good, people will talk about katelyn,
for some that may be a tough pill to swallow how much attention she gets,
but it is what it is.
Blah blah blah.
Too many words to say "Mediocre so far"
Full Haze wrote:
Blah blah blah.
Too many words to say "Mediocre so far"
interesting reaction. If 4:12 and 15:50 makes her "mediocre", what pray tell makes one (as a true freshman) better than that? Or even as a sophomore, junior, or senior?
Qualifying for nationals is my metric of success. More than 500 women qualified but Tuohy didn't.
pre was here wrote:
Qualifying for nationals is my metric of success. More than 500 women qualified but Tuohy didn't.
then i guess based on your narrative nico young isnt a successful freshman which is BS
gotta laugh over his logic, just let him win so he feels better
stats dont lie
pre was here wrote:
Qualifying for nationals is my metric of success. More than 500 women qualified but Tuohy didn't.
ah but only 40 were AA in XC. And she was 24th as I recall. Exactly how many make it to Nationals in track. But you probably have a different definition of success there. Maybe top 10?
In HS, Tuohy had a meteoric rise to phenom status after her Freshman year, when she was still elite but not as dominant as what she was known for.
Not making it to NCAAs or Qualifying for the Trials (goals and standards she likely puts on herself) could possibly fuel the fire for her to have another breakout Sophomore season this year.
NC State in general has a lot of great depth in the 5k and let's not forget that we still haven't seen Claire Walters, Jenna Schultz, Marlee Starliper etc. come to form. Along with Brooke Rauber coming in, I can see NC State making a huge splash this upcoming XC season and Tuohy will be hungry for more.
FastTuohy wrote:
Full Haze wrote:
Blah blah blah.
Too many words to say "Mediocre so far"
interesting reaction. If 4:12 and 15:50 makes her "mediocre", what pray tell makes one (as a true freshman) better than that? Or even as a sophomore, junior, or senior?
He’s obviously just trolling semihaze and Astro who put an obscene amount of time and effort into defending everything Tuohy does.
We’re now 3 pages into “was she sick?!”. Compare that to Nicos thread.
I think you’d find less KT haters if you guys weren’t so damn intense.
No.
AA or individual qualifier to nationals or part of podium team. Tuohy was huge success.
quite common, happened before right? people wanting her to fail and just be like the rest but her results are still outlying compared to her fellows,
on another note, companies would chase to sign tuohy for this added reason, she generates quite alot engangement and people seem to want to talk back and forth about her
but, poor kid, cant even have a peaceful life
i hope katelyn gets a cut from the amount of money this site earns from her all her threads, people mention her name and everyone just flocks
If you think he is happy right now or his coach is, you are crazy. Guarantee Nico is not classifying this as a successful season. Racing in championships is what matters. If you guys think times are all that matters, is Hutchins more successful than Tuohy at this point with her XC time and 5k track time? I doubt it. Championship racing is what all of the prep is for.
if you follow hs running, these trolls already existed way back, and it was even worse
and who said tuohy's gonna win a championship this year? No one.
you're getting far and far off topic,
now were in prep cross country?
okay go on, im all ears
i guess this thread is universal
It was you who pivoted into men by bringing up Nico Young. You should have stayed on topic. Young and Tuohy were very successful in XC but they failed to qualify in track which should be easier by the numbers.
Gazellie wrote:
In HS, Tuohy had a meteoric rise to phenom status after her Freshman year, when she was still elite but not as dominant as what she was known for.
Not making it to NCAAs or Qualifying for the Trials (goals and standards she likely puts on herself) could possibly fuel the fire for her to have another breakout Sophomore season this year.
NC State in general has a lot of great depth in the 5k and let's not forget that we still haven't seen Claire Walters, Jenna Schultz, Marlee Starliper etc. come to form. Along with Brooke Rauber coming in, I can see NC State making a huge splash this upcoming XC season and Tuohy will be hungry for more.
And I can see some transferring. NC State is overstocked and some of the ladies may decide there is room for improvement elsewhere.
I doubt any of the runners mentioned will be transferring. They have two seniors next year who will be graduating. And everyone seems to really like the team and environment.
300th comment!
this thread has derailed like someone else's marriage
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RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
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Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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