Katelyn Tuohy continues to IMPROVE!

And this proves the point perfectly, doesn't it? Not sure what you imagine the double standard is. The athletes had no choice but to try to qualify regardless of how they felt.

That comment btw pertained to setting records in workouts as opposed to an actual race. Was proven right as I recall.

She failed at dealing with the anxiety and pressure. I think that is what Astro is saying. She obviously has the talent so it had to be a mental failure.

It only proves that you have basic comprehension issues. . You want to use it as an excuse for one and hold it against another. Hence the double standard. But, whatever. You keep doing you, you’re really good at it.

I'm pretty sure I comprehend fine. And I am good at it.

That is from an old thread about a totally unrelated topic.

It seems that you have followed her more closely than anyone. What do you predict as her lifetime PRs? I predict 4:09/15:18 in college and 4:03/14:58 lifetime.

Unrelated in what sense? It’s okay for you to carry on about other accomplished runners and discount their performances as long as it’s on another thread? You dish it out a lot on this forum. So much so that I’m pretty sure you’ve never completed. If you had you would celebrate every good performance regardless of athlete. Additionally you wouldn’t be hanging on trying to grab a piece of each of Touhy’s performances. She’ll be fine. She’ll win plenty. You on the other hand are, as I said before, exhausting.

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It seems that you have followed her more closely than anyone. What do you predict as her lifetime PRs? I predict 4:09/15:18 in college and 4:03/14:58 lifetime.

I don't think she will only improve slightly in the 1500 yet have huge Improvement in the 5K. If anything she's showing that so far improving in the 1500 is been better. I would say 4:04 and 1525 on more realistic goals in the next three or four years. Maybe a little faster I just don't want to throw out some crazy numbers. Obviously the main goal is to stay healthy and enjoy running

Your reading people is about as good as your reading language. Sorry you hold a grudge.

Interesting. A high school junior ran that time for 5k which is why I think the 5k will have to be faster.

Oh, I’ve got you pegged.

This is supposedly the best high school runner ever? If this was any other high school runner in their first college season you could say she had a good season. But she only had a PR in one event...... a two second PR in the 1500m. She was not even close to PRing in the 3000 and 5000! Not a good start, and not worthy of the numerous threads about how great she is?!?!?!

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This is supposedly the best high school runner ever? If this was any other high school runner in their first college season you could say she had a good season. But she only had a PR in one event...... a two second PR in the 1500m. She was not even close to PRing in the 3000 and 5000! Not a good start, and not worthy of the numerous threads about how great she is?!?!?!

i see that this type of reaction is common in here,

which obviously comes from jealousy

hello, i am a fangirl of KT, not like the most adults here in this thread

so, by the way, this thread was made to discuss about her improvements after knee surgery, after rehab, after her longest break from running, after maturing, after being in a new environment, new teammates, relationships new everything

and with an immense pressure to do well

now stop acting like katelyn did not mature, had knee surgery, had long break, and many more struggles she had to overcome to be able to run those times this year

she had it harder than other freshman runners, and the fact that she still had the best times as a true freshman tells you she's worth every thread here, and for you it may be not, no ones forcing you to be here by the way everyone here weren't forced to be here so if you're mad about this thread then you're just jealous she gets attention

the way you said she just pr 2 seconds in 1500m, is as if katelyn ran 2:14 her senior year, no she

didn't ran that in her senior year, she ran that 3 years ago, at her speed peak .. and the fact that she now runs 4:12 after just 3 months of running again.. after the knee surgery and long break, makes me and other running fans hopeful of her future, her healthy peers who has been training longer dont even run that kind of time

okay you're concerned about the 3000m, that was february 2021 , she ran two 3k in one week.

did you know that the 3000m race was her first ever race in s long and her first race as a college student? the goal of it was to make her feel what it feels to race again and to asses where she was fitness wise, going into the xc season where she finished as the top freshman at 24th (and the only fr in top 45)

on february 19 she ran 9:19 - 5:01 mile pace

on february 25 she ran 9:20 - 5:02 mile pace

less than 3 months after those races she ran

4:12 at 1500m - 4:30 mile pace

4:12 converts to 8:56 3000m

you dont have to be a genius to know that its an impressive jump, and you dont have to be a genius to realize that katelyn is on the right track and is developing quite well

in 5000m she ran 15:47 and 15:50 and then the bad day at regionals

- when she ran 15:47 on april, she was so winded and out of breath

- when she ran 15:50 on may, she was not winded, smiling and calmly finished as if it was a jog

its not about her breaking her own hs records, but about improvements and progress

some people still get baffled why she gets attention,

her stats this season is an enough reason,

but it is also simply because she is katelyn tuohy

people support and cheer for her and will defend her from trolls and

no matter what the results, bad or good, people will talk about katelyn,

for some that may be a tough pill to swallow how much attention she gets,

but it is what it is.

Many freshmen qualified. I see no asterisks in the qualifying list that identifies age. She is 19. Many world records have been set by 19 year olds, even 19 year old males. That means that some runners reach their peak at 19. How old was Cain at her peak? As an American. I hope that she continues to improve but I remain skeptical about her world class potential. I think she will be a several time All American but I don't see any world class potential. It is funny to recall people talking about her going pro out of high school.

I have to laugh at all the analysis of Katelyn and her teammates this weekend. The fact is that many of them were sick. When you spend so much time together, if one person gets sick, then chances are that the rest will get sick. It was certainly bad timing . It is really the only explanation of the sub-par performances. I have my connections, so I know this as a fact. I think we can stop overanalyzing everything now. Thank you.

Sick from a late nighter last Saturday.

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Many freshmen qualified. I see no asterisks in the qualifying list that identifies age. She is 19. Many world records have been set by 19 year olds, even 19 year old males. That means that some runners reach their peak at 19. How old was Cain at her peak? As an American. I hope that she continues to improve but I remain skeptical about her world class potential. I think she will be a several time All American but I don't see any world class potential. It is funny to recall people talking about her going pro out of high school.

Many freshmen qualified, real freshman i dont think so,

based on this years stats she owns the best times of a real freshman

Well its funnier because thats what people always do to hs phenoms, brie oakley, claudia lane, kate murphy and more, you break one hs record and adults seem to always want to predict your future about going pro right away but we all know going pro was never considered by katelyn, a girl who values academics just as much as her running and was a valedictorian in high school, a girl who knows going pro is not an ideal choice, you probably didnt know but katelyn early in her junior year already said shes going to college and wants to win ncaa championship with her team and hopefully make the olympics in 2024

You sound bitter in your last two sentences, i dont even want to discuss something about katelyn with you anymore because you seem to reek with negative thoughts towards such an amazing young athlete who has inspired so many young people

it is unfair to predict the future of someone who had just come off from a knee surgery and just started her college career just 3 months ago

world class potential? actually if katelyn trains in the 1500m she could podium in the U20s this year.. she just turned 19

by the way, did you know that negative thinking shortens life span?

save yourself

Are you in HS? Look at the list. There are many real freshmen. Some are 19, some are 20, some are even 24. Some are in their first year of college and some are in their 3rd. Do you y like freshmen in their 1st year who are 24 more than those in 2nd year who are 19?

Actually in the women's 1500, 3000st, and 5000 I saw only one. There is also erroneous info, with some athletes listed as FR-1. With Covid they may technically still be, but most are in their second college year.