Sham 69 wrote:
I've heard that tying a plastic bag around your head is the new brave thing to do and decreases your chance of obtaining COVID to zero.
Stoppit smith should try this
Sham 69 wrote:
I've heard that tying a plastic bag around your head is the new brave thing to do and decreases your chance of obtaining COVID to zero.
Stoppit smith should try this
colder and wiser wrote:
If anything good came out of the toxic spectacle of LRC Covid threads, it was the crystal-clear revelation of which posters had good sources of information, could interpret facts rationally, and were able to update their views based on evidence - and which were trolls, conspiracy whackjobs, ignorant fools, or high on their own BS.
So it turns out that Covid is real and dangerous, masking works, and we've been blessed with a vaccine far more effective than we had any right to expect. We've seen scientists and public health officials doing the best they could, and occasionally making mistakes that inconvenience people, while the mistakes of the Covid deniers have cost thousands of lives. If you're a Covid denier, I'll never believe a word you say about anything again. I've gotten used to just scrolling past your running-related comments without reading them. Your insights about lactate threshold or keto diet or whatever will just get ignored as mindless babbling by someone who can't tell fact from fiction.
You sound like a religious fanatic.
To be clear- I’m only saying this because I want to make sure he doesn’t get Covid
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:
Lol sheep need to wake up. None of this is even logical. They can't admit they were wrong.
Alfonso is waiting on that coffee brother. Step to it.
colder and wiser wrote:
If anything good came out of the toxic spectacle of LRC Covid threads, it was the crystal-clear revelation of which posters had good sources of information, could interpret facts rationally, and were able to update their views based on evidence - and which were trolls, conspiracy whackjobs, ignorant fools, or high on their own BS.
So it turns out that Covid is real and dangerous, masking works, and we've been blessed with a vaccine far more effective than we had any right to expect. We've seen scientists and public health officials doing the best they could, and occasionally making mistakes that inconvenience people, while the mistakes of the Covid deniers have cost thousands of lives. If you're a Covid denier, I'll never believe a word you say about anything again. I've gotten used to just scrolling past your running-related comments without reading them. Your insights about lactate threshold or keto diet or whatever will just get ignored as mindless babbling by someone who can't tell fact from fiction.
Yep.
The jokers you refer to are great sources of entertainment, but contribute nothing else. Funniest thing is when they hold hands and preach their ignorant nonsense together. Like in this thread.
"Libs want us in masks forever........ he he he"
According to the CDC, as of March 31st, 114.6 million U.S. citizens already had the covid-19 virus.
So more than 1 in 3 citizens have natural immunity to the covid-19 virus - studies have shown this immunity handles variants better than immunity produced by the "unapproved" injection.
The 35% naturally immune don't need to wear masks - right?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
The Clown Show wrote:
colder and wiser wrote:
If anything good came out of the toxic spectacle of LRC Covid threads, it was the crystal-clear revelation of which posters had good sources of information, could interpret facts rationally, and were able to update their views based on evidence - and which were trolls, conspiracy whackjobs, ignorant fools, or high on their own BS.
So it turns out that Covid is real and dangerous, masking works, and we've been blessed with a vaccine far more effective than we had any right to expect. We've seen scientists and public health officials doing the best they could, and occasionally making mistakes that inconvenience people, while the mistakes of the Covid deniers have cost thousands of lives. If you're a Covid denier, I'll never believe a word you say about anything again. I've gotten used to just scrolling past your running-related comments without reading them. Your insights about lactate threshold or keto diet or whatever will just get ignored as mindless babbling by someone who can't tell fact from fiction.
Yep.
The jokers you refer to are great sources of entertainment, but contribute nothing else. Funniest thing is when they hold hands and preach their ignorant nonsense together. Like in this thread.
"Libs want us in masks forever........ he he he"
As of May 14, 2021 9:40 AM EDT, the following is on the CDC vaccine FAQ page:
"How long does protection from a COVID-19 vaccine last ?"
"We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.htmlsometimes i saw so many people without the mask and I think they didn't get vaccine)))
2600 bro wrote:
I thought the powers-that-be wanted to keep up muzzled for years??
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-can-drop-masks-most-places-2021-5
The economy is turning due to their policies, they have to do something.
Harambe wrote:
Lead Foil Hat wrote:
Behavior, a in forcing people to hide in their homes and be unhealthy, that is the only behavior that makes things worse....not living normally. You are really ramping up the deception train this week eh? Something you are worried about, did you hold onto the Doge coin too long or did your employer finally tell you that you have to come back to work? Coward.
Outdoor exercise and activity has always been encouraged in the USA. Since maybe... week 2 of the pandemic.
The contention that lockdowns made things worse is easily refuted by places that didn't lock down, like South Dakota, still have many cases and deaths (and note, excess deaths only show up in the Fall, when they had a surge of COVID cases).
You just say stuff without evidence or even a veneer of critical thinking
No it isn't. You can't use select circumstances to extrapolate broad conclusions. You really are an idiot fear mongering troll aren't you...or just extremely dumb. ND has a much older population than most states, and while isolated a bit, was eventually going to get hit....they also saw the worst of it after they starting locking down. Your weak one point correlations don't make any sense, but you can keep spreading lies and fear thinking it makes you smart.
Harambe wrote:
Lead Foil Hat wrote:
Behavior, a in forcing people to hide in their homes and be unhealthy, that is the only behavior that makes things worse....not living normally. You are really ramping up the deception train this week eh? Something you are worried about, did you hold onto the Doge coin too long or did your employer finally tell you that you have to come back to work? Coward.
Outdoor exercise and activity has always been encouraged in the USA. Since maybe... week 2 of the pandemic.
The contention that lockdowns made things worse is easily refuted by places that didn't lock down, like South Dakota, still have many cases and deaths (and note, excess deaths only show up in the Fall, when they had a surge of COVID cases).
You just say stuff without evidence or even a veneer of critical thinking
I have never seen an ounce of (1) actual data to back yourself up or (2) any critical thinking. You just yell singular countries or cities names and claim "DATA!" like a child who just discovered the concept of science. As you try to do this with South Dakota, you might also want to realize that they had much lower death rates than the worst states that did proudly lock people down and scare people into submission. You should also note that the spiked occurred starting in October right when it starts freezing temperatures start appearing again and also when the flu starts rearing its ugly head each year. Now I can wait for your genius "critical thinking" to say, "but there were no flu cases" all while we know the they almost the same symptoms as covid and nobody spent any effort testing for the flu this past year.
Stu...Stu Padaso wrote:
Say what...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yankees-covid-vaccinated-gleyber-torres-8-positive/
This is not surprising since most of the tests just look for the virus in your mucus; something that is not necessarily a sign of actual infection rather just a sign that you inhaled the virus and it is sitting in your nasal passage; a place typically full of pathogens your body is working to expel. If they are vaccinated though, though should not get sick from it. I am actually surprised the MLB is going to lengths to test vaccinated people....it is sort of ridiculous and pointless.
The only thing that actually worries be is that ~55% of adults say they will get the vaccine. 25% undecided. 20% no. & that's just adults, as in that doesn't include children. So what happens when anti-vaxxers or someone who heard one of their 53 inaccurate messages being pushed & is taking the "wait & see" approach now walks around maskless. Are we going to still see high case numbers? Is the risk not there for people who have gotten their vaccines? We can still carry it and an alarming number of people are not vaccinated. Makes me think I should keep a mask handy.
Lead Foil Hat III wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Outdoor exercise and activity has always been encouraged in the USA. Since maybe... week 2 of the pandemic.
The contention that lockdowns made things worse is easily refuted by places that didn't lock down, like South Dakota, still have many cases and deaths (and note, excess deaths only show up in the Fall, when they had a surge of COVID cases).
You just say stuff without evidence or even a veneer of critical thinking
I have never seen an ounce of (1) actual data to back yourself up or (2) any critical thinking. You just yell singular countries or cities names and claim "DATA!" like a child who just discovered the concept of science. As you try to do this with South Dakota, you might also want to realize that they had much lower death rates than the worst states that did proudly lock people down and scare people into submission. You should also note that the spiked occurred starting in October right when it starts freezing temperatures start appearing again and also when the flu starts rearing its ugly head each year. Now I can wait for your genius "critical thinking" to say, "but there were no flu cases" all while we know the they almost the same symptoms as covid and nobody spent any effort testing for the flu this past year.
It is just an endless ring of denier talking points from you.
South Dakota never had a stay at home order nor a mask mandate. They had excess deaths ONLY when COVID cases were high.
South Dakota is running flu tests, it’s just unsurprising that social distancing knocks back a disease with a much lower R0 than COVID.
https://doh.sd.gov/documents/diseases/flu/Week17.pdfIt’s funny because one post early you said “SD was always going to get hit,” now you are trying to blame it on flu?
I don’t even need to argue with you. You do a great job contradicting yourself.
5679 wrote:
DanM wrote:
FALSE.
Many local governments (including the city where I live) went so far as to make the asinine decision to remove hoops from backboards at the playgrounds. Kids couldn't even play basketball because geezers thought it would spread the virus.
What pro-vaccine payroll are you on ?
+1
He is a liar and his word is worth nothing.
Halting -group gatherings- outdoors when we didn’t understand the viral transmission dynamics early in the pandemic... is not the refutation you think! Was it incorrect - yes! Was it understandable - sure!
To use denier-grad anecdotes l, I live in a very liberal area and people have been hooping since about last May.
We never forced people into their homes like Italy or the UK.
I understand that rational thought makes you Boomers Mad, you’re used to a lifetime of winging it on emotion, but a little bit of critical thinking goes a loooong way here on LRC.
35% already had the virus wrote:
According to the CDC, as of March 31st, 114.6 million U.S. citizens already had the covid-19 virus.
So more than 1 in 3 citizens have natural immunity to the covid-19 virus - studies have shown this immunity handles variants better than immunity produced by the "unapproved" injection.
The 35% naturally immune don't need to wear masks - right?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
Where’s the evidence variants are better handled by natural immunity? I don’t think this is the case. Generally antibody neutralization in vitro has been higher with vaccinated vs recovered sera against variants and population studies show good effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines against common variants.
There are also plenty examples of COVID reinfection for people with natural immunity.
I’d be curious to see a paper or article explaining as such.
colder and wiser wrote:
If anything good came out of the toxic spectacle of LRC Covid threads, it was the crystal-clear revelation of which posters had good sources of information, could interpret facts rationally, and were able to update their views based on evidence - and which were trolls, conspiracy whackjobs, ignorant fools, or high on their own BS.
So it turns out that Covid is real and dangerous, masking works, and we've been blessed with a vaccine far more effective than we had any right to expect. We've seen scientists and public health officials doing the best they could, and occasionally making mistakes that inconvenience people, while the mistakes of the Covid deniers have cost thousands of lives. If you're a Covid denier, I'll never believe a word you say about anything again. I've gotten used to just scrolling past your running-related comments without reading them. Your insights about lactate threshold or keto diet or whatever will just get ignored as mindless babbling by someone who can't tell fact from fiction.
Very Concise, my thought exactly. How can you trust anything a covid or mask denier says? About anything?
This CDC guideline is ludicrous of course. Talking to my residents today, we predict that the people who will still wear a mask a little longer, will actually be those of us who HAVE had a vaccine. Obviously if you dont already believe in the vaccine or masks, what are the odds you will still wear a mask now? Zero. The CDC hopefully figured this into their decision. ALL the anti maskers and anti vaxxers see this as open season to not wear a mask. No way they will walk around with a mask that says I didnt get my vaccine. So ironically, now everyone's risk is going up, and mutation risk is going to increase. Nobody has grasped the fact that this a race between us and mutations. This new guideline just dropped the baton on the final leg. The riskiest people now will not wear a mask. Hopefully the states and some businesses hold off.
NERunner000053 wrote:
The only thing that actually worries be is that ~55% of adults say they will get the vaccine. 25% undecided. 20% no. & that's just adults, as in that doesn't include children. So what happens when anti-vaxxers or someone who heard one of their 53 inaccurate messages being pushed & is taking the "wait & see" approach now walks around maskless. Are we going to still see high case numbers? Is the risk not there for people who have gotten their vaccines? We can still carry it and an alarming number of people are not vaccinated. Makes me think I should keep a mask handy.
I can tell you this is precisely what we are talking about at my hospital Precisely! Worst people will now not wear masks, the people who are part of the solution will actually continue for longer. Ironic.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19DanM wrote:
The Clown Show wrote:
Yep.
The jokers you refer to are great sources of entertainment, but contribute nothing else. Funniest thing is when they hold hands and preach their ignorant nonsense together. Like in this thread.
"Libs want us in masks forever........ he he he"
As of May 14, 2021 9:40 AM EDT, the following is on the CDC vaccine FAQ page:
"How long does protection from a COVID-19 vaccine last ?"
"We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.
Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.
Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.
As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.