CDC says: NO MORE MASKS if you are vaxxed

Harambe wrote:

5679 wrote:

I hope you don't obey that, because for months you have been saying that even vaccinated people can be vectors of transmission.

Double mask, Harambro 2600!

2600 has been quite confident from the start that vaccines would block transmission. We have high-quality evidence confirming this now.

Please try and keep up. Flinging random accusations because you are upset that vaccines work is pretty childish.

Why are you replying in the third person? It is you posting under both handles.

Random accusations? There are many threads where people say they got the vaccine so they will go maskless and you tell them not to because they may transmit the virus.

Are you in politics? You sure lie and manipulate a lot.

5679 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

2600 has been quite confident from the start that vaccines would block transmission. We have high-quality evidence confirming this now.

Please try and keep up. Flinging random accusations because you are upset that vaccines work is pretty childish.

Why are you replying in the third person? It is you posting under both handles.

Random accusations? There are many threads where people say they got the vaccine so they will go maskless and you tell them not to because they may transmit the virus.

Are you in politics? You sure lie and manipulate a lot.

Harambe is correct. I was always confident, from the first trial data, that the mRNA vaccines would greatly suppress transmission and would allow us to phase out public masking. I suspect hospitals will require it for a while and possible it will be become the new standard in healthcare settings in the winter (flu cases were WAY down this year).

It was the anti vax folks who were the fearmongers. They wanted to keep this whole thing going so they had a foil to rail against. Now that their bogeymen are proving to be rational and sane... they look very dumb.

More complete double talk from the government. Fauci and others on the left lambaste Paul about his view on masks and the idea of naturally acquired immunity and now they turn around and say exactly what he was arguing back then (and the talking heads and senators and congress people on the left have been abusing him over).

On the flip side, are things really that much better? I took a look at Colorado's data the other day (May 10) and compared it against last year on the same date. There are about 25% more adults on ventilators than this time last year (492 vs. 397), There are about 25% more people in acute care hospital beds (7,113 vs. 5,732) and 6% more adult ICU patients (1,317 vs. 1,242). The only hospitalization metric that has improved is there are fewer kids on ventilators than this time last year (52 vs. 76) and by and large, they aren't vaccinated.

Nationally, case counts are 55% higher than this time last year (7-day moving average of 40,394 vs. 26,005). Deaths are lower (7-day moving average of 651 vs. 1,855). Is that decline due to the age of those getting infected, improvements in treatment or is it due to vulnerable individuals having already died off?

5679 wrote:

Random accusations? There are many threads where people say they got the vaccine so they will go maskless and you tell them not to because they may transmit the virus.

AFAIK I never said that. The CDC made that recommendation because they did not have complete data on transmission. We all knew that data was forthcoming in late Winter or early spring and expected a positive result.

This is really not a challenging concept.

joed|rt wrote:

Nationally, case counts are 55% higher than this time last year (7-day moving average of 40,394 vs. 26,005). Deaths are lower (7-day moving average of 651 vs. 1,855). Is that decline due to the age of those getting infected, improvements in treatment or is it due to vulnerable individuals having already died off?

May 12 2020 tests: 317k

May 12 2021 tests: 990k

IFR has not meaningfully changed since the start of the pandemic, from what I've seen

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:

Yep the contradictions and hypocrisy with lack of accountability from leaders and doctors is disturbing. Yet the liberals are quick to attempt to shame, cancel and discredit any logical thinkers which threaten their agenda.

I am not in the USA so I don't witness this in person, but the majority of posting on this website seems to bring up liberals repeatedly and slate them, when politics hasn't been brought up before on the thread. So that doesn't really paint any opposition in a very good light unfortunately. This thread is really good news yet people still find a way to piss all over it.

As of May 13, 2021 at 2:45 PM EDT, the following remains on the CDC vaccine FAQ page:

"How long does protection from a COVID-19 vaccine last ?"

"We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."

Healthy people don't seek out tests. Three times as many people seeking out tests is an indicator that things are going in the opposite direction. There was not a shortage of tests last May.

Well, hopefully as a vaxxed person I still can at least catch and transmit it it to ant-vaxxers and get them sick.

Hopefully

Harambe wrote:

5679 wrote:

Random accusations? There are many threads where people say they got the vaccine so they will go maskless and you tell them not to because they may transmit the virus.

AFAIK I never said that. The CDC made that recommendation because they did not have complete data on transmission. We all knew that data was forthcoming in late Winter or early spring and expected a positive result.

This is really not a challenging concept.

3 minutes to change handles? You are getting slow.

joed|rt wrote:

Healthy people don't seek out tests. Three times as many people seeking out tests is an indicator that things are going in the opposite direction. There was not a shortage of tests last May.

Then why is test positivity 1/2 of this time last year?

You are trying very hard to make the data fit your narrative.

There are massive surveillance testing programs all over the country at schools and workplaces.

We are more open than this time last year and have lower test positivity and things are improving. Vaccines work.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

I thought the powers-that-be wanted to keep up muzzled for years??

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-can-drop-masks-most-places-2021-5

Good luck getting all the states to get on board.

This.

I’ve been hearing “trust the science” or “listen to the experts” for the last year+.

Now, that the science is saying that if you are vaccinated you no longer have to wear a mask we are still seeing many, mostly Democrat, politicians still enforcing mask mandates in their various political fiefdoms or wearing masks around other politicians who have also already been vaccinated.

What does this mean? Well despite the shouting that “COVID shouldn’t be political” it actually was very much political and not nearly as scientifically based as initially claimed by many.

Harambe wrote:

5679 wrote:

I hope you don't obey that, because for months you have been saying that even vaccinated people can be vectors of transmission.

Double mask, Harambro 2600!

2600 has been quite confident from the start that vaccines would block transmission. We have high-quality evidence confirming this now.

Please try and keep up. Flinging random accusations because you are upset that vaccines work is pretty childish.

You’re not fooling anyone, we all know you and OP are the same person. Give it up already.

Anyway this is good news, but as was mentioned, what the CDC recommends isn’t always followed by the individual states. Perhaps if NYC follows through on opening everything up by July, then everywhere else will follow suit.

* wrote:

Well, hopefully as a vaxxed person I still can at least catch and transmit it it to ant-vaxxers and get them sick.

Hopefully

Yeah, go cough on the people wearing a yellow star, Nazi.

Harambe wrote:

Wuzzle Wuzzle wrote:

I laughing at the dopes here who whined day in and day out that "teh Biden make masks permanent..der der der".

Conservatives were 100% wrong about everything in this pandemic.

This is true. Much of their arguments consistent of elaborately constructed scary strawmen "masks forever!, etc" they tilted against for weeks. You won't hear a peep out of them now. Onto the next fabrication!

Not surprisingly that you would agree with wuzzie. Both of you have been caught in lies more than once. Both are bigoted.. Both need to do better.

to be honest wrote:

This.

I’ve been hearing “trust the science” or “listen to the experts” for the last year+.

Now, that the science is saying that if you are vaccinated you no longer have to wear a mask we are still seeing many, mostly Democrat, politicians still enforcing mask mandates in their various political fiefdoms or wearing masks around other politicians who have also already been vaccinated.

What does this mean? Well despite the shouting that “COVID shouldn’t be political” it actually was very much political and not nearly as scientifically based as initially claimed by many.

The CDC releases good news and all you folks think is "I wonder what the Democrats are going to do."

Terminal partisan brain.

I love how mad people in this thread are.

Not having someone else to one for issues is hard now, isn’t it :)

2600 bro wrote:

I thought the powers-that-be wanted to keep up muzzled for years??

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-can-drop-masks-most-places-2021-5

What happened to her "sense of impending DOOM".

CDC still a political tool. I doubt here in California we'll be seeing our state re-evaluate the mask nonsense anytime soon.

2600 bro wrote:

I love how mad people in this thread are.

Not having someone else to one for issues is hard now, isn’t it :)

I am not mad. I am just pointing out what a hypocrite, lying, manipulative idiot fearmonger you are :)