Oh baby. Hocker vs Nuguse @ Oregon Twilight

can't wait for this to go up on the YouTube.

in any event, the hype train is derailed for a moment.

Jakob rattles rattles off 56s in his sleep.

wannabepro25 wrote:

Hocker got boxed in. Good learning experience for him, especially leading into the trials but Nuguse looks like the favorite to win the 1500m in the U.S.

maybe if hocker spent more time racing and less time time trialing he wouldn't have gotten boxed in

Id bet my left forearm skin Nuguse does not win the 1500m title. This will merely put another cole in the fire for young hocker.

high school xc coach wrote:

can't wait for this to go up on the YouTube.

in any event, the hype train is derailed for a moment.

Jakob rattles rattles off 56s in his sleep.

Yep. 3:30 is a whole different level after watching this. Nice win by Naguse.

The problem with Yared and Cole is that they very well might be two of the top three at the olympic trials come June, however neither will most likely have the 3:35 standard. Chances are that Nationals and conference won't be that fast and the trails never seem to be that fast. Cole might have a high enough world ranking but Yared won't as he hasn't raced enough. Not sure why no one talks about this but could loom huge in the future.

More or less this race was a huge failure for all involved just based on not getting the standard.

1500MeterLoser wrote:

The problem with Yared and Cole is that they very well might be two of the top three at the olympic trials come June, however neither will most likely have the 3:35 standard. Chances are that Nationals and conference won't be that fast and the trails never seem to be that fast. Cole might have a high enough world ranking but Yared won't as he hasn't raced enough. Not sure why no one talks about this but could loom huge in the future.

They can get in on world ranking.

Yared won't have enough 1500 meter races

1500MeterLoser wrote:

Yared won't have enough 1500 meter races

He’s ranked higher than Teare and Hocker?

Cheetahspeed wrote:

He likes to really kick it into gear the last 100. It would be interesting to see if he can get away with that if he is chilling in the back with 4-5 guys heading into the straightaway.

I wasn't able to watch the race, was this situation relevant? I think I saw he was 6th with 400m left to go.

same as it ever wuz wrote:

1500MeterLoser wrote:

Yared won't have enough 1500 meter races

He’s ranked higher than Teare and Hocker?

Dang bro you don’t know anything do you?

5555 wrote:

same as it ever wuz wrote:

He’s ranked higher than Teare and Hocker?

Dang bro you don’t know anything do you?

Feel free to point me to correcting data.

same as it ever wuz wrote:

5555 wrote:

Dang bro you don’t know anything do you?

Feel free to point me to correcting data.

Technically you are not wrong, as none of them have enough races. Hocker will have enough the next time the rankings come out as tonight will give him 5 1500/miles this year. I believe Teare has 4 in the window, I think Nuguse now has one, although I am not sure how far back into 2019 the window goes. I believe his indoor results from 2020 won't count as they are on oversized tracks.

Hocker should come into the rankings likely around 32nd in the world, maybe slightly higher as I am not certain of the placing points for his meets. Which would put him in a good spot to get a qualifier on the points. Right now he would be in by about 10 spots. https://www.worldathletics.org/stats-zone/road-to/7132391?eventId=10229502

Fair enough - thanks for the lesson!

same as it ever wuz wrote:

1500MeterLoser wrote:

Yared won't have enough 1500 meter races

He’s ranked higher than Teare and Hocker?

No he's not this is his first 1500m since 2019

high school xc coach wrote:

can't wait for this to go up on the YouTube.

in any event, the hype train is derailed for a moment.

Jakob rattles rattles off 56s in his sleep.

They can still make an Olympic final, they're just not going to be competitive. 3:32 would be considered a tactical race for Cheruiyot and Ingebrigtsen and 3:28 a fast race. I can't see any Americans getting into the medals this year

runderun wrote:

They can still make an Olympic final, they're just not going to be competitive. 3:32 would be considered a tactical race for Cheruiyot and Ingebrigtsen and 3:28 a fast race. I can't see any Americans getting into the medals this year

Yeah well let's just see how that plays out...

"Matt Centrowitz won the 1,500 meters on Saturday night in 3 minutes 50 seconds, using a brilliantly improvised strategy. (A.P.)"

1500MeterLoser wrote:

The problem with Yared and Cole is that they very well might be two of the top three at the olympic trials come June, however neither will most likely have the 3:35 standard. Chances are that Nationals and conference won't be that fast and the trails never seem to be that fast. Cole might have a high enough world ranking but Yared won't as he hasn't raced enough. Not sure why no one talks about this but could loom huge in the future.

Please stop with this 2 of 3 nonsense.