Smart to do 70 miles per week at moderate intensity until a month from racing season?
Would then cut the miles in half and ramp up track work.
Thoughts?
Smart to do 70 miles per week at moderate intensity until a month from racing season?
Would then cut the miles in half and ramp up track work.
Thoughts?
Bag the moderate intensity.
I know I’m in a decent bit better shape than you, and when I’m hitting 70s I have to take it REALLY easy. Like only 1 workout and 1 stride session easy, along with most of the easy miles being like 7:20-7:40.
I do however think it’ll be a good way to get yourself possibly well into the sub 10:00 and sub 4:30 area.
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You're training a bass? I have better luck with carp.
yea isnt the idea 1-2 workouts a week?
workout == intervals or something down to like 5K RP+ :30s/mile or so [~zone 4/5]
and like the other 'workout' being a LSR?
the rest of the mileage in the zone2 space or something like 5K RP+ 2 to 2.5 minutes
a bunch of 'moderate' mileage sounds like counterproductive zone3/4 stuff
Have We Done This Before wrote:
a bunch of 'moderate' mileage sounds like counterproductive zone3/4 stuff
It is useless until the "monster" bass is unleashed with more rest and bleeding workouts. I think that's the theory.I heard Arthur Lydiard told his athletes, "No screwing around." hence the moderate intensity.
I think what your missing with building mileage is that the high mileage IS the moderate intensity. It’s all of the slower miles adding up that tires your legs and teaches them to run longer, not the pace.
I’m probably capable of racing a half marathon at sub 6 pace right now, you made a recent post about you absolutely bonking and dying running like 14 miles at 8:00+ pace. If I can’t sustain 12 miles a day (I like to take a day off) at 6:50 pace every single day for months at a time, what makes you think you can? I’m not trying to be a jerk right now, but I just am trying to stop you from injuring yourself.
If I remember right, you said you had about a 4:30 mile and a 10:15 2 mile, I’d guess your 5k is probably around 17:00 rn.
The problem with seeing the pros and elites running sub 7 miles while at 70+ miles a week is you fail to realize these are 12:50-14:00 people. Them running 6:40-6:50 miles is probably the same as you running 7:30-7:40 miles effort-wise.
Your right. Maybe I should start at 50 with doubles and then start increasing the distance as it gets easier.
70 miles per week in my mind is way easier than in my legs, but often we forget that the body is connected with the mind, and vice versa.
That could work. I hope the plan wasn’t just to jump into 70 mpw cause that’d have you broken in 2-3 weeks.
A good strategy I used when I was in the 70-75 mpw zone was trading off between easy and moderate days.
One day I’d just do a 10 miler at like 7:40 pace with some sub 4:00 pace strides at the end for about 10.5 miles of volume, and then do a steady state run or progression the next day, so something like
10-12 miles with miles 1-5 at 7:30+ pace then work down to 5:50-5:40 by the last mile,
Or
10-12 miles with 3 miles easy, 4-5 miles steady state (which is about 6:10-6:30 pace for me, not quite tempo but not easy pace) and then another 3-4 miles easy.
Typically I go in a 3 day pattern during base.
Full easy: 6-8 miles at 7:20-8:00 pace with a 2-4 mile double if I feel good enough to do so.
Easy: 10-12 miles at 7:15-7:45 pace with strides or a couple fast 400s at the end
Harder: one of the workouts I just mentioned or even 400s/800s at 5k-10k pace.
Sham 69 wrote:
Smart to do 70 miles per week at moderate intensity until a month from racing season?
Would then cut the miles in half and ramp up track work.
Thoughts?
What is your previous highest mileage week? Have you run 70 before?
largemouth or smallmouth? big difference
shammzzz gunna get injured wrote:
What is your previous highest mileage week? Have you run 70 before?
50 with workouts, but that was my first cross season. Just got done with my first track season.
That's a lot of mileage to be honest. If you are going out every day, that is seven miles a day. I think it would be better to troll a little more instead of riding between spots so much. It would save a lot of gas money as well.
that math doesn't check out, even with 2 completely zero rest days
crete wrote:
You're training a bass? I have better luck with carp.
I love bass fishing and respect any bass, particularly trophy bass, but I think carp are more intelligent. Carp are a very wary fish that are extremely aware of what happens above the water.
I think they would be easier to train, plus bass are more independent, and carp will follow a crowd.
crete wrote:
You're training a bass? I have better luck with carp.
I have goldfish who are part of the carp family. My problem is that they are currently residing in a small pool that requires 240 laps/mile. Getting them to train 2,400 laps per day has been a monumental task. I have a couple that are in fantastic shape but I am having trouble finding a race where they can test their fitness. I am also having trouble finding masks small enough for them so they will be covid compliant if I do find a race.
I think everyone is missing the point here. He's asking for "Bass" training. OP, head to your local music shop and ask for lessons. If you don't have a local music shop just search "bass lessons" on Google and I'm sure something will come up.
I don't know what the 70MPW will do for you besides making you a better runner... that seems unrelated though. Good luck!
Thanks. I need to be the next Sid Vicious.
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crete wrote:
You're training a bass? I have better luck with carp.
He'll likely flounder training a bass.
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