Hocker's current personal bests
800m: 1:46.60
1500m 3:35.65(En route split from 3:50 mile)
5000m: 13:19.98
Should he double 15/5k for team points? Should he focus on the 800m as a tuneup for the trials? Or should his focus be on the 1500m to practice championship style 1500m racing?
Keep in mind that the NCAA championships for men will conclude on June 11th and the 1500m prelim/5000m prelim for the trials will begin on June 24th.
He should win the 1500.
I don’t see him winning the 5k though, Teare will beat him if he doesn’t lead the whole race. He has a shot at the podium though.
He definitely won’t win the 800, and will have trouble even getting on the podium.
If I were him, I would only run the 1500 to get to the Olympic trials fresh. He has a legit shot at the 1500 team, so I’d go for that rather than a second NCAA podium.
He has the best shot at the 1500m. Outside chance he wins the 5k. Idk how the schedule is laid out, but if the 1500m is before the 5k then I assume he runs both. If not, then probably the 1500m.
Mixed gender 200 vs Mu
We’ll settle that debate once and for all
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
He shouldn’t even run the races. I heard he’s got a Gold Medal kick. They should just award Oregon his 30 points and save his legs for the Trials and Olympic Games where he’ll outkick Ingebritsen for Gold.
After he does that he can join The Pantheon of Greats who get relentlessly bashed on here after breaking records and winning medals.
tired man wrote:
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
lol, the question was what he should run at NCAAs, not the trials!
cramister wrote:
Mixed gender 200 vs Mu
We’ll settle that debate once and for all
who wins in a decathlon?
FastTuohy wrote:
tired man wrote:
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
lol, the question was what he should run at NCAAs, not the trials!
Oh, my bad! Apologies...
tired man wrote:
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
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He would be an idiot to not run the 1500.
tired man wrote:
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
Bor not going for the steeple??
Remember when Clayton Murphy won the 1500m at NCAA’s and went on to win a US title and a bronze medal in the 800m?
I think Hocker should do something similar to what Murphy did and run the 800. If Hocker can win a NCAA title in the 800m, that would give him a huge boost in confidence for not only the trials, but the olympics as well.
canadian 123 wrote:
He should win the 1500.
I don’t see him winning the 5k though, Teare will beat him if he doesn’t lead the whole race. He has a shot at the podium though.
He definitely won’t win the 800, and will have trouble even getting on the podium.
If I were him, I would only run the 1500 to get to the Olympic trials fresh. He has a legit shot at the 1500 team, so I’d go for that rather than a second NCAA podium.
How do you not see Hocker winning the 5k when he just took down the Iowa state duo/teare in a fast paced race? If Teare or anyone else doesn't push it up front, it will just become a kicker's race which would play into Hocker's hand with his 800/1500m speed. Historically NCAA championships have been sit and kicks at the 5k distance. The Fisher/Knight/Mcdonald era 5k's have all been sit and kicks. Hocker knows he has the best kick so he won't lead any part of the race till the last lap.
As far as the 800m goes, it would definetly be the most difficult to win but not impossible. There aren't any guys that standout as sub 1:45 at the moment. Devin Dixon has run sub 1:45 but has been a shell of himself. Hocker did beat a 1:45 guy in Festus Lagat when he ran that 1:46. The challenge for Hocker might be trying to navigate around a field full of 800m studs that are taller/bigger than him and putting himself in a good position with 200m to go.
kinghockerr wrote:
canadian 123 wrote:
He should win the 1500.
I don’t see him winning the 5k though, Teare will beat him if he doesn’t lead the whole race. He has a shot at the podium though.
He definitely won’t win the 800, and will have trouble even getting on the podium.
If I were him, I would only run the 1500 to get to the Olympic trials fresh. He has a legit shot at the 1500 team, so I’d go for that rather than a second NCAA podium.
How do you not see Hocker winning the 5k when he just took down the Iowa state duo/teare in a fast paced race? If Teare or anyone else doesn't push it up front, it will just become a kicker's race which would play into Hocker's hand with his 800/1500m speed. Historically NCAA championships have been sit and kicks at the 5k distance. The Fisher/Knight/Mcdonald era 5k's have all been sit and kicks. Hocker knows he has the best kick so he won't lead any part of the race till the last lap.
As far as the 800m goes, it would definetly be the most difficult to win but not impossible. There aren't any guys that standout as sub 1:45 at the moment. Devin Dixon has run sub 1:45 but has been a shell of himself. Hocker did beat a 1:45 guy in Festus Lagat when he ran that 1:46. The challenge for Hocker might be trying to navigate around a field full of 800m studs that are taller/bigger than him and putting himself in a good position with 200m to go.
Teare still has a faster mile and 5k PR than hocker, and Hocker beat Teare in that 5k because Teare was stuck leading for almost 2km. Teare was really running for time in that race, and I think he can clean up his tactics in the 5000. I think Mantz could push the pace from the front, like he did indoors a year ago, and Teare will be more comfortable at that pace.
800m: Charlie Hunter and Finley McLear would beat Hocker 9 times out of 10 imo. Both have run 1:45.9 and run well in championships. Hocker could maybe sneak in for 3rd, but I don't think it's worth it for him anyways.
Going to Tokyo is better than a 2nd NCAA podium, and running prelims + finals for 2 events can be tiring mentally and physically.
lke_4:25 wrote:
tired man wrote:
1500m only.
In 5000m he will get spanked by Bor, Chelimo, McGorty, Fisher and Klecker.
In 800m he will get spanked by Brazier, Hoppel, Sowinski, and Harris.
In 1500m he could only lose to Engels.
Bor not going for the steeple??
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