Oregon girl collapses at 800 meter finish line from oxygen deficit due to forced mask mandate

My answer to you is simple...

I 've been a germaphobe and squeamishly careful from a young age up to current times.

I didn't share a snack with a friend in school if they had touched it

I would never sample something from either parent if they had touched the fork, even if it had not touched the plate

Hugs felt too much close for comfort

I hated crowded places because i didn't know where people had been

Then by high school, in my Bio 2 AP class my sophomore year and my Human Genetics class, I learned introductory microbiology and a bit of virology.

It allowed me to validate that my fears of germs were founded because what I was afraid of had a descriptor in science.

I didn't like to get close to anyone still

By the time I entered college and then got into the working world, I realized that a lot of adults, despite the sophisticated airs they try to give off are nasty, dirty, sniffly, snuffly pigs.

Imagine a typical offire:

Martha over there sniffles 100 times a minute

Dean? He's got the smoker's cough

Bob? Not only does he make disgusting groans you can hear from the other side of the office from the bathroom but he doesn't wash his hands then grabs a document to hand to Sally

Sally? Oh she came in with the flu today...yeah....and she friendlily pats Bob's shoulder to thank him for the document with her flu hands.

Beth? She has been sneezing multiple times today

Then you go to lunch...

Ken, behind the counter, has a cough that he conveniently calls allergies

Mary, who is making the food, has to clear her throat every 10 seconds

June, who serves the food, has just asked to leave early because she doesn't feel well.

Back (teria) from your lunch ..ha! You're in an infirmary...i mean a meeting..

Cough sniffle sniffle snuffle Cough cough throat clear coughing fit etc

And the saga continues

So now in a pandemic, people are having to use gloves, masks, ample bleaches, hospital grade disinfectant sprays, sanitizers and highly antibacterial soaps for required handwashing...

And you have to wonder for one minute WHY I support these precautions?

Like I said, fear. You validated my point, but some people are like that and I won't judge. However the issue here is that the people who do not fear these physical worldly things, such as I, are being forced to live a life in light of those who do fear things. I could tell you all day why I don't fear the sickness, but that might not stop you personally which is fine. If you owned a business or ran a track meet and you wanted those precautions to be in place, great, that's your policy. But a lot of what I said before was just validated in what you replied with. I rest my case, say what you will, but I now leave this thread with a strong argument and an unchanged mind. The reason for this? I abide in Christ, thank you for your time, hopefully this reaches people in a way that helps them clearly see my historically correct facts.

Jesus Christ?

Um.

Jesus is not going to stop the virus and Jesus doesn't determine the manifestation of RNA.

Even if Jesus has helped previously, it doesn't mean it's guaranteed.

Sorry, but when you are talking virology and protection, Jesus can't change what the body does.

Faith is great for Salvation, but you're not automatically stronger because "Jesus Christ."

That is not a capstone argument.

I love the Lord

I pray to the Lord after every walk or run

I accept the Lord as my savior

But I accept science when it comes to viral manifestation. That's beyond Jesus.

Amen.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

They train together longer than 15 minutes.

Can't follow the science? Don't have the sport until you can.

Are you old enough to be posting on here? You sound like a petulant child whose drunken babysitter is helping him post.

If you can support any of the crap you've spouted here with something other than an X-files-like "THERE ARE ARTICLES OUT THERE," then do it.

Otherwise, go fetch your babysitter another whiskey sour.

Be nice if people could disagree and have a rational discussion without telling the other person they are nuts or stupid. The science says that it is not impossible but far less likely to spread COVID outside. Some of the best evidence relating to competition and COVID comes from the NFL where their data shows that on the field isn't much of a problem. In the locker room is. Their data was so thorough that the CDC changed it's recommendations based on the NFL. Worth noting is that part of the NFL protocol included wearing masks during practice.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

That is not at all what the science says.

You can take the parts you like out of any clause.

Science says that the likelihood of covid spreading outdoors is lessened because of particle dissipation in the air. Lessened, not destroyed.

Moreover, this is, as science dictates, the general rule when people keep a reasonable distance and are not by each other for a prolonged time. This is why science says to social distance outside and wear a mask when social distancing is not possible. Being in someone 's breath slipstream for a period of time without any mitigation measures can be, and is, many times problematic.

Because you want normal and your racing life back is no reason to lie to yourself or others about science. Learn other hobbies.

You are f-ing insane. There is zero reason people should be forced to wear masks outside. The chance of getting Covid outside are so small. You’re probably more likely to get in a car accident than get Covid outside. And covid really isn’t that dangerous if you’re remotely healthy. If you aren’t healthy, please stfu and go sit in your basement until you feel comfortable because I really don’t care about keeping fat unhealthy people “safe” because they can’t take care of themselves. I haven’t taken care of my health to have ridiculous restrictions put on me due to other people’s laziness

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Jesus Christ?

Um.

Jesus is not going to stop the virus and Jesus doesn't determine the manifestation of RNA.

Even if Jesus has helped previously, it doesn't mean it's guaranteed.

Sorry, but when you are talking virology and protection, Jesus can't change what the body does.

Faith is great for Salvation, but you're not automatically stronger because "Jesus Christ."

That is not a capstone argument.

I love the Lord

I pray to the Lord after every walk or run

I accept the Lord as my savior

But I accept science when it comes to viral manifestation. That's beyond Jesus.

Amen.

I hope I never meet anyone like you. You sound awful to be around.

Stoppit do you feel accomplished or something by hysterically stanning for mask and such on a running website? Mental illness is real folks.

I'm automatically fat, unhealthy and awful because your freedom to be a jock is abridged?

I didn't take that freedom away from you dude, and MOST CERTAINLY I didn't create the mindset of you and many here that because running is ALL you live for, that you're so mad at fat and unhealthy people because you can't get rid of your anxiety like an edgy freaking thoroughbred.

The fact that you would openly criticize "fat and unhealthy" people shows more how awful you are.

You didn't develop other skills

You didn't foster other hobbies

You didn't learn coping mechanisms

So while during the week, I am working with the children on fitness, creative crafts, STEM projects, etc and using the diversity of hobbies and skills that I have learned or picked up to help their lives be richer, you're sitting here stewing about fat people.

It must really be depressing to be you.

Are you freaking kidding, dude?

The very direction of this thread IS about running and masks outside, such that a viewpoint regarding both is very pertinent here.

Just because you want your old normal back doesn't mean that it should be back in the same way it was.

I don't feel accomplished but these are my viewpoints and you can be darn sure that I'd have to face a firing squad for the final end before I ever switch any viewpoint for which I have conviction and absolute certainty.

Both the runner and the coach were interviewed on Fox News this morning. Didn't realize her time is the fastest in Oregon this year and currently top-5 in the country.

54h4 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Its the first time I've seen masks blamed for an athlete's inferior aerobic fitness.

What is to blame for your inferior mental capacity?

Are you seeking to find the answer for your own obvious incapacity?

twoggle wrote:

alpha wrote:

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/john_canzano/2021/04/canzano-state-leadership-fails-to-see-the-finish-line-with-high-school-running-mask-rule.html

That’s definately dangerous and I believe very unhealthy to force children to wear a mask while exercising outside. It begs the question if Oregon’s crazy governor will try and force college athletes or participants at the Olympic trials to wear a mask during their events. If not, why single out children in Oregon? If so, I hope the USATF has a plan to move the trials and the World Championships in 2022.

College athletes and pro athletes have access to weekly testing and high schools do not. Obviously..

Ding Ding ding! thank you 100%

All the fatties and diabets peopleat my nursing died of the coivd, but the 100 year old who is always walking around lived. It ture, if you are fit the survial rate is like 99 percent. And honestly onece you get the coivd, everye else just seems super crazy about the maks and stuff. Seriously, coivd is like the flu.

benrunsfast wrote:

twoggle wrote:

That’s definately dangerous and I believe very unhealthy to force children to wear a mask while exercising outside. It begs the question if Oregon’s crazy governor will try and force college athletes or participants at the Olympic trials to wear a mask during their events. If not, why single out children in Oregon? If so, I hope the USATF has a plan to move the trials and the World Championships in 2022.

College athletes and pro athletes have access to weekly testing and high schools do not. Obviously..

Oregon high schools have free testing available and the state could let them use it for athletes if they think it’ll protect them rather than forcing children to cover their mouth and nose during heavy exercise.

I don't understand the (lack of) rationale for this. Meanwhile, football and basketball players can breathe all over each other for several hours and guys like Steph Curry dangle a mouthpiece full of sputum during a game.

Anyone can buy rapid test, 2 for $20, at Walmart.com

Girl on my team passed out yesterday at a time trial. There were only three people running the time trial, towards the end of the race she was nowhere near anybody but we've been told by coaches and athletic directors that if we get seen running anywhere under any circumstances without a mask (or with it pulled down) again they will suspend the entire track and field program and our coaches could lose their jobs. Instead of allowing us to run time trials by ourselves without masks, they have a physician on site in case anyone passes out (that didn't help much). Lunacy. I'm certainly left of center on politics and generally regard this website as a cesspool of right wing trolls, which I mention to emphasize how insane it is that I actually agree with other people on this thread about how ridiculous liberal states governors are being right now.