Hello,
On strava I see my friends etc who are training for their first sub 3 marathon post runs of 10 miles at 730 as easy and 10 mile runs at 830 as recovery. They are running 30-40 miles a week. Who's confused me or them?
Hello,
On strava I see my friends etc who are training for their first sub 3 marathon post runs of 10 miles at 730 as easy and 10 mile runs at 830 as recovery. They are running 30-40 miles a week. Who's confused me or them?
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I guess technically speaking recovery runs would be zone 1 heart rate and easy runs would be zone 2. But for me for easy runs I just go out slow and adjust based on how I'm feeling.
anyone like to use strava not to log their own training but to complain about others
In my opinion, 7:30 is very fast for easy for 3h marathon runner. Isn't?
dimka11 wrote:
In my opinion, 7:30 is very fast for easy for 3h marathon runner. Isn't?
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I'm in the same ball park and do my regular runs at 8 min pace. I recently did 10 miles at 8:40 and 19 miles at 8:25.
Sometimes I just write recovery run at 6min miles or under for shiits n giggles. Gets people fussied up in a tizzy.
Who the donkey cares?
dimka11 wrote:
In my opinion, 7:30 is very fast for easy for 3h marathon runner. Isn't?
7:30 pace for 60-75 minutes is still an "easy" run for a marathon. How else are you supposed to label it? Sometimes I just call runs like this "mileage" because the goal is just running for a set amount of time without ever feeling like you're pushing yourself into a workout.
If you're running 10 miles or less at something slower than marathon pace, that qualifies as an easy run.
Who cares, lots of people train to fast.
I’d be willing to bet they are faster than you, but you want to still feel superior by belittling their “improper” training.
one shoe only wrote:
I'm in the same ball park and do my regular runs at 8 min pace. I recently did 10 miles at 8:40 and 19 miles at 8:25.
Determining a person's ceiling has a lot to do with it as well. There are 3:00 marathoners who are squeezing every last bit of potential out of themselves as like 40 minute 10K runners. Then there are those who are 34 minute 10K guys who just have never done the distance, so just completing a marathon at 3:00 is the goal.
It makes more sense to base "easy/recovery/etc." off of something that's a bit more quantifiable, like threshold pace or Vo2max pace.
I use the term “standard” and “recovery”. Standard for me = 145 BPM average over the course of the run, usually working up to 147-150 by the end. Recovery = < 140 BPM but usually more like 135. Pace is variable but is currently running about 7:20-7:35 for standard and 8:05-8:30 for recovery.
I am in about a 3 hour marathon shape right now, I mean I can't run a 3 hour marathon right now, but I am confident I could after about 4-6 weeks specific block. My easy pace's upper limit is about 7:40/mile. 8:30 would definitely be a recovery pace, no matter the distance. 10 miles is not very long or tiring for me, however I average about 80mpw over last 3 months. My point is, yes, they might be running their miles a bit too fast, but nothing outrageous or worth a thread like this.
I saw a girl on my strava (who is aiming for a sub 2hr HM) doing a 90 min run. She titled the run "90 mins easy" with the description "there was nothing easy about this".
Well then don't call it 90 minutes easy then! Honestly...
Agreed, sounds like their metrics are off? All jokes aside, they could be using a faulty device and really believe they are running at that pace, or they could be lieing, or they honestly are that good at running. I wouldn't fret too much. Just take small baby steps and improve yourself, that's who you should compete against.
10 miles at ~40 seconds slower than marathon pace should feel pretty easy and the 8:30 pace should be a good recovery pace
are they running too fast? maybe, but its not by much and it depends on how they handle the other runs they are doing (i.e. any sort of tempos/interval work). I also doubt them running maybe 10 seconds/mile too fast will have any impact when they are at 30-40 miles
Darby wrote:
I am in about a 3 hour marathon shape right now, I mean I can't run a 3 hour marathon right now, but I am confident I could after about 4-6 weeks specific block. My easy pace's upper limit is about 7:40/mile. 8:30 would definitely be a recovery pace, no matter the distance. 10 miles is not very long or tiring for me, however I average about 80mpw over last 3 months. My point is, yes, they might be running their miles a bit too fast, but nothing outrageous or worth a thread like this.
You can't run a 3 hour marathon at the moment, but 8:30 is definitely recovery pace?
Run6556 wrote:
Darby wrote:
I am in about a 3 hour marathon shape right now, I mean I can't run a 3 hour marathon right now, but I am confident I could after about 4-6 weeks specific block. My easy pace's upper limit is about 7:40/mile. 8:30 would definitely be a recovery pace, no matter the distance. 10 miles is not very long or tiring for me, however I average about 80mpw over last 3 months. My point is, yes, they might be running their miles a bit too fast, but nothing outrageous or worth a thread like this.
You can't run a 3 hour marathon at the moment, but 8:30 is definitely recovery pace?
Yes, it's called being in the end of the base phase. No marathon specific work yet, but averaging 8/mile at 90mpw lately. I know my easy pace by heart rate, my recovery heart rate is about 10 bpm lower than that.