josh1988 wrote:
Jesus Christ jamin. Get out of here. You are an embarrassment to the running community.
Why? He's faster than most.
josh1988 wrote:
Jesus Christ jamin. Get out of here. You are an embarrassment to the running community.
Why? He's faster than most.
The Unkle wrote:
NY Times is so full of it.
The actual hospitalization rate is between 1% and 5% per the NYT.
Which is it?
1%. Or 5%, which is 400% more?
Some journalism.
"1% to 5%" is the correct multiple choice answer in the Gallup poll as is clear from context. The NYT article links to a CDC site that gives detailed hospitalization statistics over time.
But you knew that.
97% of statistics are made up.
While self identified Democrats did worse on this particular question, the most obvious take away is that very few knew the answer regardless of political affiliation.
Over 99.9% of Puget Sound area women find Jamin undateable. Care to discuss thar statistic?
gernu wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Democrats are all about feeling morally superior to whoever the hated enemy is.
Actually it is Republicans you are describing.
The hated enemy to which you feel morally superior
You can't see it, apparently, but everyone else can. All Democrats are delusional.
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
While self identified Democrats did worse on this particular question, the most obvious take away is that very few knew the answer regardless of political affiliation.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/03/18/multimedia/18-MORNING-PERCEPTIONS/18-MORNING-PERCEPTIONS-jumbo.png?quality=90&auto=webp
One thing I’ve learned from this whole Covid experience is that the average person is horrendous at math/stars/risk assessment.
...who thinks 50%+ of Covid cases result in hospitalization? How is it even possible to think that? These must be the “scream at your for running without a mask” idiots.
New survey reveals that 97% of Republicans believe in a magical sky-wizard who talked with some people in a desert thousands of years ago but has been trying to keep in touch ever since.
WYOming wrote:
New survey reveals that 97% of Republicans believe in a magical sky-wizard who talked with some people in a desert thousands of years ago but has been trying to keep in touch ever since.
And the Democratic party elected a president who believes the same thing and also believes in following the edicts of a guy in Italy wearing a funny hat.
say wut?? wrote:
josh1988 wrote:
Jesus Christ jamin. Get out of here. You are an embarrassment to the running community.
Why? He's faster than most.
POTD
That Didn't Turn out how you thought it would wrote:
WYOming wrote:
New survey reveals that 97% of Republicans believe in a magical sky-wizard who talked with some people in a desert thousands of years ago but has been trying to keep in touch ever since.
And the Democratic party elected a president who believes the same thing and also believes in following the edicts of a guy in Italy wearing a funny hat.
Recent update to survey results: humans are emotionally driven, stupid creatures who cannot escape their tribalistic ideology. OOOH OOOH Republican GOOOD! OOOH OOOH Democrat BAD OOOH OOOH! Democrat GOOOd REblican BAD OOH OHH!
WYOming wrote:
That Didn't Turn out how you thought it would wrote:
And the Democratic party elected a president who believes the same thing and also believes in following the edicts of a guy in Italy wearing a funny hat.
Recent update to survey results: humans are emotionally driven, stupid creatures who cannot escape their tribalistic ideology. OOOH OOOH Republican GOOOD! OOOH OOOH Democrat BAD OOOH OOOH! Democrat GOOOd REblican BAD OOH OHH!
Then why'd you target Republicans for something that is universal across the political spectrum?
jamin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/briefing/atlanta-shootings-kamala-harris-tax-deadline-2021.html
Those are pretty insane numbers if you think about it.
About half of the adults in this country are or lean towards the Democratic Party and almost half of those individuals believe that 50% + of individuals who are diagnosed with COVID end up in the hospital.
So, about 20% of adults in this country believe that there's a 50% chance of ending up hospitalized if you end up diagnosed with COVID ( which is just so incredibly wrong its mind boggling).
mask off wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
While self identified Democrats did worse on this particular question, the most obvious take away is that very few knew the answer regardless of political affiliation.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/03/18/multimedia/18-MORNING-PERCEPTIONS/18-MORNING-PERCEPTIONS-jumbo.png?quality=90&auto=webpOne thing I’ve learned from this whole Covid experience is that the average person is horrendous at math/stars/risk assessment.
...who thinks 50%+ of Covid cases result in hospitalization? How is it even possible to think that? These must be the “scream at your for running without a mask” idiots.
Many of them crave the excitement of fear and panic. Try explaining the miniscule infection fatality rate. Lots of people don't want to hear it.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
jamin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/briefing/atlanta-shootings-kamala-harris-tax-deadline-2021.htmlThose are pretty insane numbers if you think about it.
About half of the adults in this country are or lean towards the Democratic Party and almost half of those individuals believe that 50% + of individuals who are diagnosed with COVID end up in the hospital.
So, about 20% of adults in this country believe that there's a 50% chance of ending up hospitalized if you end up diagnosed with COVID ( which is just so incredibly wrong its mind boggling).
I know this is a controversial take but the fact that so many millions of people thought the hospitalization rate was x10-x15 what it actually was does explain what I believe was and is considered the mass hysteria that was COVID-19.
I would be curious what those same people think the fatality rate is for COVID-19. Wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it was also x10-x15 higher than it actually is.
Now my question is how could so many people (25% of adults in America when you consider the Republicans who believe in the high hospitalization rates) have gotten these basic facts so ludicrously wrong? The CDC or the WHO, two scientific institutions that seemed to be trusted by Democrats especially, never inflated the death tolls or hospitalization numbers that high. Where is this 50% hospitalization rate coming from? Even CNN or NPR haven’t claimed rates that high.
I forgot to include the independents. This means, that according to this poll over 30% of adults in America believe the COVID hospitalization rate is 50% or more. That is incredible.
Gary Peaches wrote:
I would be curious what those same people think the fatality rate is for COVID-19. Wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it was also x10-x15 higher than it actually is.
I would. The fatality rate got mentioned orders of magnitude more than the hospitalization rate. I am sure there are a lot of cluelesss people (see all the Republicans who don't know about symptomatic transmission) but that 1% number was talked about enough I would think most people would be around there.
It is easy to think of this people as stupid bit in general humans suck at these problems. Probability isn't something we have a great intuitive feel for and things that we can't see (i.e. you infecting 2 other people who then kill some old people) is well beyond the capacity of most people who need a direct cause and effect to understand something.
As far as an overreaction, it all depends on that unknowable about what would have happened if we did nothing. And obviously how you feel about kill people. If you would have been OK with 2 million deaths, we probably overreacted. If you thought 300k was too high, we underreacted.
This is how propaganda works. Propaganda 101.
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
NY Times is so full of it.
The actual hospitalization rate is between 1% and 5% per the NYT.
Which is it?
1%. Or 5%, which is 400% more?
Some journalism.
"1% to 5%" is the correct multiple choice answer in the Gallup poll as is clear from context. The NYT article links to a CDC site that gives detailed hospitalization statistics over time.
But you knew that.
1% to 5%. Why not 1% to 100%? That would also be true.
Sheesh
[quote]ddidididid wrote:
[quote]mask off wrote:
Being wrong about asymptomatic spread results in doing stupid things like not wearing your mask and prolonging this pandemic.
Where is the proof of asymptomatic spread?