MR1815 wrote:
get a real job wrote:
They are still demanding raises in California.
Go back to work alrready. What a lazy profession.
I'd like to see you teach the children of today and see if you're adequately compensated.
The teachers are not allowed to discipline the kids so this argument is bunk.
wazzu1452 wrote:
I live in a red state completely governed by the GOP top to bottom.
Our teachers have been in school teaching in person the entire time during covid. All of our restaurants and bars have been open. All of our business remained open. There is no mask mandates.
What are you guys doing in the Blue states?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-03-10/idahos-economy-gets-high-marks-in-best-states-rankings
The population of Queens county NY is greater than your whole state so we needed to close. I don't think a GOP mayor or governor would have opened up our bars, restaurants or schools. The rural areas opened up much earlier.
The OP referenced California. The beauty of our country is that states get to decide what's best for them. I'm not complaining about my blue state, you're happy with your red state, let those who aren't happy try to change their own or move to another.
There is Z E R O evidence that CLOSING helped you at all.
Places that didn't close had equal outcomes without the ECONOMIC devastation brought on by "progressive" democrat leaders.
All locking people did was cost people their jobs and destroyed the economy. All for a virus with a 99.6% recovery rate.
You get what YOU vote for I guess.......
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
wazzu1452 wrote:
There is Z E R O evidence that CLOSING helped you at all.
Places that didn't close had equal outcomes without the ECONOMIC devastation brought on by "progressive" democrat leaders.
All locking people did was cost people their jobs and destroyed the economy. All for a virus with a 99.6% recovery rate.
You get what YOU vote for I guess.......
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
one of the major side effects from COVID is the emergence and rise of dumb. You're posts are littered with dumb. "blue" states vs "red" states is a dumb argument only argued by republicans. By your idiotic definition, America is a blue nation then, yes? Has been for quite some time.
There's no point debating anything with you. But, I'm glad you thinking keeping everything "open for business" during a time of quantifiable uncertainty was a good move.
"You're posts are littered with dumb. "blue" states vs "red" states is a dumb argument only argued by republicans."
This is because places with GOP governors all had more appropriate responses to the pandemic than just ruining everyone's lives and shutting down the economy.
I know you are smart enough to realize this....
People are moving out of NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle and Portland to name a few.
All of those places have 100% democrat control.
Where are they going? Florida, Texas, Idaho, Tennessee ect.............
Gee.....what do those states have in common????
wazzu1452 wrote:
"You're posts are littered with dumb. "blue" states vs "red" states is a dumb argument only argued by republicans."
This is because places with GOP governors all had more appropriate responses to the pandemic than just ruining everyone's lives and shutting down the economy.
I know you are smart enough to realize this....
People are moving out of NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle and Portland to name a few.
All of those places have 100% democrat control.
Where are they going? Florida, Texas, Idaho, Tennessee ect.............
Gee.....what do those states have in common????
They will be Democratic soon.
The GOP is toast.
my anecdotes support this wrote:
Lenny Leonard wrote:
I’ve been back in person since February. Half of my students are still doing remote learning though.
Maybe instead of watching the mainstream news, just go outside your house once in a while. Things aren’t that bad.
I'm in Indiana. My teacher buddies have been back in the classroom since February I believe. All the teachers I know are fully vaccinated at this point and don't really care about getting covid anymore. It's no biggie.
Teachers in my Indiana school district have been back since August. Students can opt for in person, virtual, or hybrid. Teachers are working much harder because they have to plan for three different style of class instead of one.
Teachers in the west Chicago suburbs have been back in school for a few months now. Nearly half of my running group is teachers and they have all had the vaccine already. I think some schools are still doing hybrid where some students are online and some in class, but the teachers are all there.
I've been back in-person since last July. We did a hybrid model until February, when we went back full time. Honestly, even though I live in a state which has had a pretty bad time with COVID, school has gone well and appears not to have spread COVID significantly. I'm surprised, but it's what happened.
wazzu1452 wrote:
"You're posts are littered with dumb. "blue" states vs "red" states is a dumb argument only argued by republicans."
This is because places with GOP governors all had more appropriate responses to the pandemic than just ruining everyone's lives and shutting down the economy.
I know you are smart enough to realize this....
People are moving out of NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle and Portland to name a few.
All of those places have 100% democrat control.
Where are they going? Florida, Texas, Idaho, Tennessee ect.............
Gee.....what do those states have in common????
Idaho? Yikes. Do they want to join a militia?
Yeah I would say Idaho is a good comparison for the rest of the country.
Just to give an idea of what "reopening schools" looks like in NYC...I teach in a building with 2 public schools (a HS and a secondary school) and one elementary charter school. The charter school has never been back in the building since last spring. HS's returned just before Easter/Passover break. Since then, we have been closed on two separate occasions because of positive tests within the building. Now, the entire in-person 9th grade and several 9th teachers are home for 10 days because of positive results for a kid who was in class for 2 days last week. It's a cluster f.
For the most part, teachers want to be back to normal. I'd love to teach 5 days a week and be done with this computer nonsense. The city and our union are the ones coming up with these absurd rules on when we close and when we open.
browski wrote:
Just to give an idea of what "reopening schools" looks like in NYC...I teach in a building with 2 public schools (a HS and a secondary school) and one elementary charter school. The charter school has never been back in the building since last spring. HS's returned just before Easter/Passover break. Since then, we have been closed on two separate occasions because of positive tests within the building. Now, the entire in-person 9th grade and several 9th teachers are home for 10 days because of positive results for a kid who was in class for 2 days last week. It's a cluster f.
For the most part, teachers want to be back to normal. I'd love to teach 5 days a week and be done with this computer nonsense. The city and our union are the ones coming up with these absurd rules on when we close and when we open.
The charter school has never been back in the building? Damn the union.
wazzu1452 wrote:
There is Z E R O evidence that CLOSING helped you at all.
This is plainly false and based on gross overstatements of what was and was not closed.
My state was closed up as much as any (which is to say, not really that much) and the economic "damage" was really not that significant.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-state-finances-20200909-anujrrdhufei7cgdvaflpdoave-story.htmlAlso, please see a graph of UK coronavirus cases if you doubt the effectiveness of NPIs deployed alongside a vaccine rollout. The NPIs were responsible for the bull of the drop.
browski wrote:
Just to give an idea of what "reopening schools" looks like in NYC...I teach in a building with 2 public schools (a HS and a secondary school) and one elementary charter school. The charter school has never been back in the building since last spring. HS's returned just before Easter/Passover break. Since then, we have been closed on two separate occasions because of positive tests within the building. Now, the entire in-person 9th grade and several 9th teachers are home for 10 days because of positive results for a kid who was in class for 2 days last week. It's a cluster f.
For the most part, teachers want to be back to normal. I'd love to teach 5 days a week and be done with this computer nonsense. The city and our union are the ones coming up with these absurd rules on when we close and when we open.
Yep, it’s ridiculous. One positive (which is not a case) takes out an entire block of kids via contact tracing. Frankly, I think we’re at a point where we stop testing the kids. If you are sick, stay home & get tested. But, everyone else, just let it go, especially as teachers & admin have largely been vaccinated. Especially since unions and governors and districts are making it harder on teachers having to straddle full time, hybrid, & remote. ESPECIALLY because the S.A. strain is “breaking through” the vaccines, so we will need multiple vaccines on an annual basis now since nothing mutates more quickly than a Coronavirus (including influenza) and it’s never NOT been that way.
I would be fine (as with most parents I’ve polled) with extending school full time into summer this year, since the kids got hosed, but the unions will complain. We are just cultivating the next batch of monkeys.
Where I live, charters and privates have been fine, mostly full time. It’s the publics that have been shut down. So, not only do they do a worse job educating our kids (mine went charter for middle school, public for high school), but they are also doing a worse job managing Covid despite more per pupil funding.
More than 70% of all K-12 students in Alabama, North Dakota, Texas, and Utah have the option of in-person instruction, while Florida and Wyoming are teaching almost all of their students in person, according to Burbio data shared with CBS News.
All of these states also have "right to work" laws that say no one can be forced to join a union, which means that in these states, if the district orders schools to be reopened, teachers must show up for work or risk losing their job.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/schools-reopening-covid-track-teaching/
Just keep those potatoes coming. I don't know of any other significant industry in Idaho that would produce something of value to anyone in other states. With your bottom-rung-in-the-PAC-12 WSU education, you probably don't know either. Say hi to Ryan Leaf and Henry Rono for me when you pass the brown-bagged 40 oz. at your next alumni function.
"Just keep those potatoes coming. I don't know of any other significant industry in Idaho that would produce something of value to anyone in other states."
Honestly, just stay in your blue city with all of it's homeless people, crap on the streets and businesses leaving!
But hey, you guys are soooooo woke. I hope you get your increase in your minimum wage. Most progressives are on it..........
THE DEMOCRAT BASE "Please raise my minimum wage". "Please pay off my loans". "Hold my hand"
"voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago. This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000 — from 45 percent in 2016 to just over half in 2020."
I can't think of a single progressive dude that is not serving me fries and asking me to refill my Coke!
Weak.