Time to panic? Centro runs 1:50.97 800!!!

ha, love the quote

dancing knees wrote:

1:50.98 in the Florida meet today for 5th or 6th place. I know he has still run a good 1500 after slow 8’s before but this doesn’t look good!

LRC note: Results below. There were no splits on the broadcast but they said the leader came through in 53 seconds. So Centro was 54 or 55 in last place. He moved up to pass Brandon Lasater but that was it. We're merging a couple threads on this including one by started by dancing knees titled "Centro is Done"

Place Athlete Time Heat Points

1 Abe Alvarado USA 1:47.29 1

2 Kameron Jones USA 1:47.33 1

3 Rajay Hamilton JAM 1:48.32 1

4 Robert Downs USA 1:49.34 1

5 Andres Arroyo PUR 1:50.21 1

6 Matthew Centrowitz USA 1:50.97 1

7 Brandon Lasater USA 1:51.19 1

I would panic. That wouldn’t be the top HS time in California. Time to retire.

DwideSchrude wrote:

Honest question, how will you spin your comment about "act like you've been there" when he doesn't make the team or DNS's?

I wish for once people on here would just hold themselves accountable for the crap they spew when they end up being the ones that are wrong. The 1500 is a crapshoot, and if you were at the casino for this year in the 1500 at the trials, I do not think you would be comfortable betting money on Centro making the team at this point.

There's no "spin" to make. Its groundhog day all over again.

Not sure why he'd travel to run 1:50. That's an effort he could get done in Portland.

People handle success in different ways. What Centrowitz did after 2016 was a tell as to how the rest of his career would pan out. Instead of retooling for a run at a 5000 medal in 2020 - where everyone knew his ultimate potentially was - he goofed off, got some bad tattoos, changed coaches a few times, wasted the peak of his career.

Predictions going forward: Won't make the team. Will keep running for as long as possible.

Working three hours a day and playing videos games is a pretty good gig and he has no other options - Nike is no longer a company that is going to keep a track athlete on retainer just to roll out a few times a year and tell the Rio story.

malmo wrote:

rojo wrote:

So I've got to put this as an F.

Last I checked it's April 10th. Act like you've been there before.

I'd rather be the hunter than the hunted.

Correct. There is nothing wrong with this result. I would be more concerned if Centro was running 1:44 in April. Now if he cannot run 1:48xx in 2 months there might be cause for concern. Centro might be utilizing this as a sharpening workout.

free shipping with purchase wrote:

Not sure why he'd travel to run 1:50. That's an effort he could get done in Portland.

People handle success in different ways. What Centrowitz did after 2016 was a tell as to how the rest of his career would pan out. Instead of retooling for a run at a 5000 medal in 2020 - where everyone knew his ultimate potentially was - he goofed off, got some bad tattoos, changed coaches a few times, wasted the peak of his career.

Predictions going forward: Won't make the team. Will keep running for as long as possible.

Working three hours a day and playing videos games is a pretty good gig and he has no other options - Nike is no longer a company that is going to keep a track athlete on retainer just to roll out a few times a year and tell the Rio story.

I think that CTR statue holding the gold medal tattoo is as cool as a tattoo gets actually. You sound jelly.

You’d be concerned if centro ran basically his pr? Equal to a 1:48 in super spikes? And Why would he travel to Florida to do a training run? Centro fan boys are something else

Jerry very good at peaking his athletes for USAs. This could have been a workout. Centro May have been instructed to go out in last. Some are saying he’s in base phase or doing 5k or strength training. BTC does one speed workout a week and they can hit those pretty hard. He posted an Instagram story recently ripping a fast 200.

This was just a rust buster for Centro.

He totally jogged that thing.

Besides a 1:50 800 for a runner of his level is like a 3:40 1500.

He's fine.

It’s a trainer... Come on guys

ejheidfhjugw wrote:

Jerry very good at peaking his athletes for USAs. This could have been a workout. Centro May have been instructed to go out in last. Some are saying he’s in base phase or doing 5k or strength training. BTC does one speed workout a week and they can hit those pretty hard. He posted an Instagram story recently ripping a fast 200.

Centro left BTC.

Ever since Shelby took to Centro while he was sleeping (the night he lost 24k) Centro has been going through what seems to be PTSD. Maybe even stockholm syndrome considering the level of teasing that went on.

He knows races right now mean nothing

I know this is unpopular and maybe even apocryphal, but I think the result is interesting, but I don't have any idea what it means. It will be interesting, as well, to see how he runs his next race. Regardless, I hope he does well.

Keep in mind. The top three at the Oly Trials 1500 will not go to the top three best athletes but the top three best finishers off a slow pace. So yea, Centro still has a chance with a fast last 100.

This thread is idiotic. None of us know where Centro is at in his training. This could have easily been a rustbuster just to get the legs moving the race-mind back a little, and it probably was all those things since it's barely April. 1:50 doesn't mean anything with regards to the future. It's April. Maybe Centro is done, maybe he'll pop a 3:32 in 2.5 months. I had track seasons where the difference between my first 800m of the season was 5+ seconds slower than my SB, and this was in the span of only a couple months. I don't know why anyone would give this race so much weight.

dancing knees wrote:

You’d be concerned if centro ran basically his pr? Equal to a 1:48 in super spikes? And Why would he travel to Florida to do a training run? Centro fan boys are something else

To be smarter than you does not mean one is a fan boy.

malmo wrote:

DwideSchrude wrote:

Honest question, how will you spin your comment about "act like you've been there" when he doesn't make the team or DNS's?

I wish for once people on here would just hold themselves accountable for the crap they spew when they end up being the ones that are wrong. The 1500 is a crapshoot, and if you were at the casino for this year in the 1500 at the trials, I do not think you would be comfortable betting money on Centro making the team at this point.

There's no "spin" to make. Its groundhog day all over again.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7375135&page=3#7377386

I will not speak for Malmo but my impression is that he and I are NOT saying that Centro will make the Olympic team so I am not sure how we can be wrong here. What I am saying and it appears Malmo is saying is that a 1:50.97 800m on April 10th is not a cause for panic and simply does not indicate one way or another what this means for Centro at the Trials. We do not have enough information on whether he trained right through this or whether he is just beginning to incorporate faster speed workouts or even what event Centro is aiming for. Centro will eventually be too old or not fast enough to make an Olympic team. That may happen this year but none of us knows that now. The 800m today reveals little.

ejheidfhjugw wrote:

Jerry very good at peaking his athletes for USAs. This could have been a workout. Centro May have been instructed to go out in last. Some are saying he’s in base phase or doing 5k or strength training. BTC does one speed workout a week and they can hit those pretty hard. He posted an Instagram story recently ripping a fast 200.

I've never been a huge centro fan but you guys on this message board can not wait for him to fail. He literally has done everything you can medal wise for 1500m. Even if he had a bad year here he's the most successful miler we have had and it can't be taken from him no matter what a college runner does this year or anyone. He's already done what they would dream to achieve.

A race in april is not as important as the trials or the olympics. But you guys want to scrutinize every little race

i cant imagine he is happy with this result and literally nothing he has done in the last year indicates he will make the team. is it possible he still makes it? of course, but there will come a time when pointing to his results from 2016 wont me anything and that time might come sooner than most people on here think...like at the trials.