Rheinhardt Harrison 8:47 3200 with 2:01 last 800, breaks Florida state record by 2 seconds

Also, I would say Harrison is in low-8:40s shape based on his splits, so sub-8:40 should be the goal.

Sub-9 guy wrote:

Also, I would say Harrison is in low-8:40s shape based on his splits, so sub-8:40 should be the goal.

I agree, good potential to go sub-8:40 this year, could chase records next year if he so desires.

Yeah especially considering he wasn’t even wearing spikes - makes it seem like more of a workout.

What makes you say "only so much tread on the tires" there are plenty of world class athletes that have trained at a high level from a young age and continued to develop.

Heartless wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

Cole Sprout also ran faster than Ritz as a junior.

Who started the lie that Lukas ran his 8:29 as a junior? It was his senior year, the June prior to heading to Oregon. He was 18.5 years old.

Lukas was a full year older than your typical sophomore when we called him a sophomore.. It was very stupid and obviously needed to be rectified. To his credit, he supposedly busted his butt the summer between his fake sophomore and real senior years to “test into” his senior year. He was officially a senior throughout his entire final year in high school.

Ritz’s 8:41.1 as a junior was run completely by himself in a typical mid-season invitational. Won by :30+, I believe.

LOL... michiganrunner55 never said Ritz has the Jr. record, just that Ritz ran fastER than 8:47.

.l.b.j. wrote:

asdfasdf wrote:

LV was an 18 years old high school senior when he ran 8:29 in Spring 2011. That fall he was running cross country for Oregon.

No, he was a HS junior and graduated early. That does not make him a senior.

Not true. No one referred to LV as a junior that year. He was a senior. He fixed the absurdly-stupid situation of being an entire year older as a freshman and sophomore, by attaining “senior” status by September of his last year in high school. All results showed his as a senior.

spokane xc wrote:

Heartless wrote:

Who started the lie that Lukas ran his 8:29 as a junior? It was his senior year, the June prior to heading to Oregon. He was 18.5 years old.

Lukas was a full year older than your typical sophomore when we called him a sophomore.. It was very stupid and obviously needed to be rectified. To his credit, he supposedly busted his butt the summer between his fake sophomore and real senior years to “test into” his senior year. He was officially a senior throughout his entire final year in high school.

Ritz’s 8:41.1 as a junior was run completely by himself in a typical mid-season invitational. Won by :30+, I believe.

LOL... michiganrunner55 never said Ritz has the Jr. record, just that Ritz ran fastER than 8:47.

Huh? Who are you responding to?

What if legs, ankles, and feet aren't like car tires in that the more mileage the worse they get? What if instead the body gets stronger and faster through mileage, assuming some set of injury prevention exercises? I'd say that the latter has a lot more basis than the former, particularly when we're talking about athletes (way) under 40.

zxcvzcxv wrote:

What if legs, ankles, and feet aren't like car tires in that the more mileage the worse they get? What if instead the body gets stronger and faster through mileage, assuming some set of injury prevention exercises? I'd say that the latter has a lot more basis than the former, particularly when we're talking about athletes (way) under 40.

Agreed. Athletes that train better in HS obviously have less room for improvement, the same way a kid that played AAU basketball from age 7 has less room for improvement in college than somebody from Cameroon. But Rheinhardt will be very good for his level for a very long time. I see him being a top college kid, with the potential to go pro and be a national contender for a long time.

Your list below has some severe problems, such as -

2 MILES

8:29.46 *Lukas Verzbicas’ (Sandburg, Orland Park, Illinois) 2011 - Foreign Born National (Not American) Parents took Drugs as Soviet Block Athletes in the 1980's and while pregnant with Lukas. Actually was 19 years old when he ran 8:29.46 in Mixed ability race with professionals.

8:34.40 German Fernandez (Riverbank, California) 2008 - Foreign Born National (Not American) Actually was a 'Dreamer' and did not have US Citizenship, born in Mexico.

8:36.3 Jeff Nelson (Burbank, California) 1979 - Mixed Ability Race against adults & professionals - not eligible for the official American High School 2 mile Record

8:37.22+ ————Fernandez 2008 - Same!

8:39.15i Edward Cheserek’ (St. Benedict’s, Newark, New Jersey) 2013 - Foreign Born National (Not American) is Kenyan and moved here in at start of HS. Not birth record actually - could have been 19 or older too.

8:40.0i Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Washington) 1964 - Mixed Ability Race against adults & professionals - not eligible for the official American High School 2 mile Record ran against Ron Clark from Australia who beat him indoors in that race.

8:40.70i ————*Verzbicas’ 2011 - Same!

Hobbs Kessler - 8:39.04 Legitimate Record!!! In HS only race and American Birth to American parents.

8:40.9 Craig Virgin (Lebanon, Illinois) 1973 - Was Legitimate Record!!!

8:41.55 Matthew Centrowitz (Broadneck, Annapolis, Maryland) 2007

8:41.5 Steve Prefontaine (Marshfield, Coos Bay, Oregon) 1969

**10 performances by 8 performers**

8:42.51 *Drew Hunter (Loudoun Valley, Purcellville, Virginia) 2015

8:43.02+ *Nico Young (Newbury Park, California) 2019

Just Say'in -

Lindgren ran before there were professionals in T&F

Well maybe, but he was paid to show up and run at the Cow Palace in SF. Plus he was already an Olympian. I don’t believe the Fernandez rumor though and I’m not against any of these amazing times it’s just that if you want to get hyper-technical about what constitutes an American High School Record then is there any criteria other than you’re attending one???!!! I’m not a patriotic racist and in my mind all are welcome but if official records have any weight then there should be some boundaries- for example does King Ches own the Kenyan HS record with that time even though he did it in America and he was still in process is becoming a US citizen??? How do the Kenyan T & F officials see it?

You don’t have to “guess” that his mileage volume is high...according to his Strava account...which is open to the public, his mileage volume is very low...only 39 miles last week. His highest weekly mileage is about 60 miles. Reviewing his Strava profile (which goes back a few of years) he’s just very consistent with his training.