[quote]2600 bro wrote:
Texas already requires a number of vaccinations to attend public school - sorry bro.
Yes.
A number of one time, childhood vaccinations.
Not this two shots per year forever nonsense.
Sorry Bro.
[quote]2600 bro wrote:
Texas already requires a number of vaccinations to attend public school - sorry bro.
Yes.
A number of one time, childhood vaccinations.
Not this two shots per year forever nonsense.
Sorry Bro.
Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
Not interested in the vaccine. As a baby boomer, I had the Chicken Pox, Mumps, Measles, etc., and I'm still here. Lol. The pharma-controlled MSM fearmongering machine has conditioned people to believe that no one has a healthy immune system anymore and if you don't take the vaccine you'll die of Covid or one of the variants.
Big Pharma is very good at manipulating the masses through control of the MSM, the CDC (captured agency) and our elected officials (Big Pharma is the biggest lobbyist in Congress outspending Big Oil & Gas by a 2-1 margin).
I bodybuild, still run a little, eat a healthy organic diet and take vitamin D3/get plenty of sunshine 💪-not interested in Big Pharma's Covid vaccine concoction. 😖
My immune system is top notch. I have zero fears about me having an adverse reaction to Covid.
I took the vaccine because I don’t want to spread the virus to someone who does not have my same health stats.
You should consider that in your analysis.
Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
The pharma-controlled MSM fearmongering machine has conditioned people to believe that no one has a healthy immune system anymore and if you don't take the vaccine you'll die of Covid or one of the variants.
Your complete inability to even consider other people is just fascinating. I'm not getting vaccinated because I'm worried about dying of Covid. I'm getting vaccinated because I don't want to give covid to my immunocompromised mother or my very elderly grandparents.
All these "brave" people aren't afraid of spreading an illness that has killed almost 600K americans, but they're terrified of getting a shot that makes their shoulder sore for couple days. It's insane.
third wrote:
[quote]Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
Not interested in the vaccine. As a baby boomer, I had the Chicken Pox, Mumps, Measles, etc., and I'm still here. Lol. The pharma-controlled MSM fearmongering machine has conditioned people to believe that no one has a healthy immune system anymore and if you don't take the vaccine you'll die of Covid or one of the variants.
Big Pharma is very good at manipulating the masses through control of the MSM, the CDC (captured agency) and our elected officials (Big Pharma is the biggest lobbyist in Congress outspending Big Oil & Gas by a 2-1 margin).
I bodybuild, still run a little, eat a healthy organic diet and take vitamin D3/get plenty of sunshine 💪-not interested in Big Pharma's Covid vaccine concoction. 😖
My immune system is top notch. I have zero fears about me having an adverse reaction to Covid.
I took the vaccine because I don’t want to spread the virus to someone who does not have my same health stats.
How can you spread a virus that you don't have?
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
The pharma-controlled MSM fearmongering machine has conditioned people to believe that no one has a healthy immune system anymore and if you don't take the vaccine you'll die of Covid or one of the variants.
Your complete inability to even consider other people is just fascinating. I'm not getting vaccinated because I'm worried about dying of Covid. I'm getting vaccinated because I don't want to give covid to my immunocompromised mother or my very elderly grandparents.
All these "brave" people aren't afraid of spreading an illness that has killed almost 600K americans, but they're terrified of getting a shot that makes their shoulder sore for couple days. It's insane.
Sure it has. Name one person anyone ever heard of who died of Covid who was not deathly ill before Covid arrived. There are none. The nearly 600k number is overstated by a factor of ten or so. Ditto on the 30 plus million cases in America.
While there is some profit, generally companies make way more off of therapeutics. Idk 🤷🏻♀️ Just wanted to share some stats on what makes them money. I genuinely am not being sarcastic and understand why money makes people concerned. I think having conversations like these are important even if we don’t agree.
UK is levelling off as the EU and India are restricting supplies to us,and also as we are switching to mainly second doses for a month or so,our % will shoot back up in May,and be over 80% by July then we can party while all the 3rd world Europeans wallow.
Das Unkle wrote:
[quote]mo money mo problems wrote:
I know my input won’t sway you but would like to note that vaccine development isn’t very profitable for companies.
That's hilarious.
Hilarious.
Like a bunch of Wonder bread, pasty-white, goatee covering their triple chin Boomers emptying their pockets for Bone-r drugs hilarious?
Or just "Nobuhddy's goin tell me what to do while I burry my head in the sand!" hilarious??
There are pools out on the subject. I will list 2 below. It looks like we can get to 70%,, which given the vaccines efficacy and previous infections would almost certainly be enough for herd immunity, except kids aren’t getting vaccinated. We will see if the number willing to get the vaccine continues to rises as people see their neighbors getting the vaccine without repercussions.
1101 wrote:
Just providing an observation. Israel is leading the world by a large margin in vaccination percentages. UK is in second.
Israel seems to be leveling off at just over 60% of the population vaccinated.
UK appears to be leveling off at under 50% vaccinated.
I am a bit surprised to see this. I was hoping that most advanced nations would have no trouble going over 70% and might hit 80%. Capping out at 50 - 60% isn't going to get the job done.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
News flash: no-one cares what you are hoping for, we all care about ourselves and will do what's best for ourselves. The virus doesn't scare me and will not harm me so why would I take a vaccine for it.
Chuck Schwab wrote: I’m guessing a track closer to the regular flu vaccine which is around 40-45%(for the entire population).
I don't think comparison to the flu vaccine is very appropriate. I never got a flu shot until this year, when my employer required it. I'm not opposed to vaccinations but I simply never felt the flu posed a sufficient risk, either to me or to the rest of society, to make it worth getting a vaccine that usually isn't very effective anyway. COVID is a much more serious disease (agreed, it kills mostly people who are in pretty bad shape to begin with, but there are many such people in our society) and the vaccines are highly effective. I got the COVID vaccine but I still won't get flu shots in the future unless I'm required to do so.
1101 wrote:
Just providing an observation. Israel is leading the world by a large margin in vaccination percentages. UK is in second.
Israel seems to be leveling off at just over 60% of the population vaccinated.
UK appears to be leveling off at under 50% vaccinated.
I am a bit surprised to see this. I was hoping that most advanced nations would have no trouble going over 70% and might hit 80%. Capping out at 50 - 60% isn't going to get the job done.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
It's not approved for children which are 30+% of the Israeli population and ~20% of the US. New cases have gone off a cliff in Israel (currently down 96% from January peak) so it seems to be getting the job done just fine.
for sure wrote:
1101 wrote:
Just providing an observation. Israel is leading the world by a large margin in vaccination percentages. UK is in second.
Israel seems to be leveling off at just over 60% of the population vaccinated.
UK appears to be leveling off at under 50% vaccinated.
I am a bit surprised to see this. I was hoping that most advanced nations would have no trouble going over 70% and might hit 80%. Capping out at 50 - 60% isn't going to get the job done.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinationsNews flash: no-one cares what you are hoping for, we all care about ourselves and will do what's best for ourselves. The virus doesn't scare me and will not harm me so why would I take a vaccine for it.
Ummm . . . maybe so other people will not die of it? I know, of no importance to you, right?
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Oh, but I do like your "News flash..." Most impressive!
Das Unkle wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Your complete inability to even consider other people is just fascinating. I'm not getting vaccinated because I'm worried about dying of Covid. I'm getting vaccinated because I don't want to give covid to my immunocompromised mother or my very elderly grandparents.
All these "brave" people aren't afraid of spreading an illness that has killed almost 600K americans, but they're terrified of getting a shot that makes their shoulder sore for couple days. It's insane.
Sure it has. Name one person anyone ever heard of who died of Covid who was not deathly ill before Covid arrived. There are none. The nearly 600k number is overstated by a factor of ten or so. Ditto on the 30 plus million cases in America.
Herman Cain
amkelley wrote:
Chuck Schwab wrote: I’m guessing a track closer to the regular flu vaccine which is around 40-45%(for the entire population).
I don't think comparison to the flu vaccine is very appropriate. I never got a flu shot until this year, when my employer required it. I'm not opposed to vaccinations but I simply never felt the flu posed a sufficient risk, either to me or to the rest of society, to make it worth getting a vaccine that usually isn't very effective anyway. COVID is a much more serious disease (agreed, it kills mostly people who are in pretty bad shape to begin with, but there are many such people in our society) and the vaccines are highly effective. I got the COVID vaccine but I still won't get flu shots in the future unless I'm required to do so.
I don't think covid is more serious, this is a fabrication. The flu kills a lot of people every year even with a large fraction of people being vaccinated, particularly the elderly. We would see much larger elderly flu deaths each year if they were not getting vaccines as people are living into much more frail age brackets.
I have forbidden My Family to be vaccinated.
mo money mo problems wrote:
While there is some profit, generally companies make way more off of therapeutics. Idk 🤷🏻♀️ Just wanted to share some stats on what makes them money. I genuinely am not being sarcastic and understand why money makes people concerned. I think having conversations like these are important even if we don’t agree.
Big Pharma is pushing for 2 vaccines a year, every year, for every person on the planet.
That's 14 billion shots per year.
Times @ $30 per shot equal > $400 billion per year in gross income on the vaccine.
Fasterer wrote:
Das Unkle wrote:
[quote]mo money mo problems wrote:
I know my input won’t sway you but would like to note that vaccine development isn’t very profitable for companies.
That's hilarious.
Hilarious.
Like a bunch of Wonder bread, pasty-white, goatee covering their triple chin Boomers emptying their pockets for Bone-r drugs hilarious?
Or just "Nobuhddy's goin tell me what to do while I burry my head in the sand!" hilarious??
Huh?
Flu vaccine averages ~40% effective and age-stratified IFR of COVID is ~10x worse than seasonal flu.
Flu vaccine is never great (too many mutations and strains) and COVID is way deadlier.
No way a 40% effective vaccine prevents 450k deaths or whatever to match COVID.
Harambe wrote:
No way a 40% effective vaccine prevents 450k deaths or whatever to match COVID.
No way a vaccine prevents 450k flu deaths since the largest number of flu deaths in any year is well below 100k.