Fauci"We're finding out that it's the team sports where kids R getting together,obviously many w/o masks, that are driving

Well, he’s not wrong. It’s why many districts require a rapid test to get in the door to a competition.

Youth sports may also be driving the spread of variants.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210402/cases-in-children-helping-surge-of-covid-variants

Interesting. Not taking a side here but is it possible this has to be a blanket rule for the simple reason that all team sports including outdoor track have an indoor component (eg stretching inside a fieldhouse without a mask on because it just so happens to be raining outside on a cold April day?)

Oh no! The virus hasn't been eradicated! The only solution is to cancel everything forever.

Well whatever. I don't care what any one suggests, I'm playing sports no matter what.

Mathiang Mangok wrote:

Interesting. Not taking a side here but is it possible this has to be a blanket rule for the simple reason that all team sports including outdoor track have an indoor component (eg stretching inside a fieldhouse without a mask on because it just so happens to be raining outside on a cold April day?)

It's not the sport itself, it's the stuff that comes with it - sharing lift and so on. Changing rooms. It might make sense to look at that, but no.

hamsters wrote:

Mathiang Mangok wrote:

Interesting. Not taking a side here but is it possible this has to be a blanket rule for the simple reason that all team sports including outdoor track have an indoor component (eg stretching inside a fieldhouse without a mask on because it just so happens to be raining outside on a cold April day?)

It's not the sport itself, it's the stuff that comes with it - sharing lift and so on. Changing rooms. It might make sense to look at that, but no.

Ahh didn't even think of that. My HS days so long ago but that would make sense. I gotta take off my casual gear I wore in the hallways of my HS as well as my varsity jock jacket with the varsity letter and change into some shorts and a tee all while wearing an N95 with the rubber straps making an indentation to my face

[quote]Mathiang Mangok wrote:

Dr Fauci: "We're finding out that it's the team sports where kids are getting together, obviously many without masks, that are driving it, rather than in the classroom spread," Fauci told ABC's George Stephanopoulos Tuesday on "Good Morning America." "When you go back and take a look and try and track where these clusters of cases are coming from in the school, it's just that."

Damned liar.

This is silly. For all of the "data and science" the argument here is almost completely based on speculation. Ok so 38 people (doesn't even specify that they were competitors) at wrestling tournaments (plural) in FL during the month of December tested positive. At a time when the active case rate was probably 10x what it is currently. That's probably not too far off what you would get from just a random sample of the population during that time. There's no mention of how many people they tested, what the positivity rate was, or even if they did contact tracing to determine how the people were infected.

According to the establishment's own "data", the rising cases are in a handful of states, mostly in the NE.

The southern states that have not closed down sports are not the problem.

Fauci is just a liar

The outbreaks among youth sports teams in Colorado have pretty much been volleyball, hockey, basketball, wrestling and gymnastics. Basically indoor sports in close contact without masks. Outdoor sports have been rare on the outbreak list. Oh yeah, and there have been no deaths in outbreaks at schools or sports in Colorado. So far the outbreaks have involved 13,293 cases in Sports teams, Colleges, K-12 Schools, Outdoor and Indoor Entertainment, with zero deaths. Outdoor sports are almost entirely absent from the outbreak list.

Almost exclusively indoors with the exception of one football team. Here is a list of the youth sports teams with outbreaks in Colorado:

3STEP Lacrosse

Adrenaline Gymnastics Academy

Boulder Hockey Club 16AA

CYT Colorado Springs

Durango Gymnastics

Flatirons Volleyball Club - 15U

Flatirons Volleyball Club - 16U

Loveland Volleyball Club

Northern Colorado Volleyball Club Tournaments

Northern Colorado Youth Hockey

Peak 2 Peak Wrestling

Peak Athletics & Cheer Athletics Denver: January 2021

Pueblo Bulls Hockey Club

RoughRiders 15 (Boys): March 2021

Team Velocity

Vail Volleyball Club

Windsor Gymnastics Academy

YMCA Youth Hockey Private club team

5280 Gymnastics, LLC- Littleton

Alpine Dance Academy

Alpine Volleyball Academy

Arvada Hockey

Barbara Ellis Studio of Dance

Boulder Hockey Club, 12A1

Boulder Hockey Club, Team 16U Lady RoughRiders, Sports Stable in Superior

Boys & Girls Club Program at Truscott Elementary School

Boys & Girls Club- Pulliam

Boys & Girls Clubs of Pueblo county- East Side Clubhouse

Boys and Girls Club of Larimer County - Wellington

Boys and Girls Club PACE Program

CBR Youth Connect

Colorado Taekwondo Institute

Colorado West Gymnastics

Durango Youth Baseball Team

Edge Ice Arena - Figure Skating

Edge Ice Arena - Hockey

Fleming Football

Fort Collins High School Wrestling Invitational

Green Mountain Area Basketball- 8th grade girls

Hyland Hills Hockey Association

Kemper Dance Academy

Littleton Ballet Academy

Loveland Dance Academy

Premier Gymnastics

Rodarte Community Center

RoughRiders 14/15 (Boys): February 2021

SOAR Basketball

Splash Pool Services, Inc

Steamboat Springs Youth Hockey - Bantam

Team Colorado Volleyball

Thunderbirds Hockey

Trojan Youth Wrestling

Volleyball Club

Youth Basketball Team #1

Youth Hockey Team #1

So, if Democrats are the party of science and are going to listen to the scientists, and one of their lead scientific advisors is saying that team sports are spreading COVID, does that means all the Democrats on the board are in favor of shutting down youth sports? Should Biden act unilaterally to ban youth sports? It is what the scientist is saying, so why isn't Joe acting? If we are going to avoid repeating the mistakes of the previous administration, then Biden should shutdown sports, right? Should teacher's unions refuse to work if youth sports are not ended immediately?

this thread wasn't meant to get into that, but I thought Fauci was neutral. he's served under many administrations on both sides of the aisle

joed|rt wrote:

So, if Democrats are the party of science and are going to listen to the scientists, and one of their lead scientific advisors is saying that team sports are spreading COVID, does that means all the Democrats on the board are in favor of shutting down youth sports? Should Biden act unilaterally to ban youth sports? It is what the scientist is saying, so why isn't Joe acting? If we are going to avoid repeating the mistakes of the previous administration, then Biden should shutdown sports, right? Should teacher's unions refuse to work if youth sports are not ended immediately?

Trump actually banned everything in March 2020 and had our country on total lockdown (which was probably the right decision knowing what we did then). But then by late April/early May 2020 or so everyone just gave up because it's too hard

Mathiang Mangok wrote:

joed|rt wrote:

So, if Democrats are the party of science and are going to listen to the scientists, and one of their lead scientific advisors is saying that team sports are spreading COVID, does that means all the Democrats on the board are in favor of shutting down youth sports? Should Biden act unilaterally to ban youth sports? It is what the scientist is saying, so why isn't Joe acting? If we are going to avoid repeating the mistakes of the previous administration, then Biden should shutdown sports, right? Should teacher's unions refuse to work if youth sports are not ended immediately?

Trump actually banned everything in March 2020 and had our country on total lockdown (which was probably the right decision knowing what we did then). But then by late April/early May 2020 or so everyone just gave up because it's too hard

You mean Americans aren't just tough anymore and can't handle a little pain and discomfort like those Americans of the 30's and 40's?

Safety over freedom is not an American value.

Das Unkle wrote:

Fauci is just a liar

Not so Tough Anymore wrote:

Mathiang Mangok wrote:

Trump actually banned everything in March 2020 and had our country on total lockdown (which was probably the right decision knowing what we did then). But then by late April/early May 2020 or so everyone just gave up because it's too hard

You mean Americans aren't just tough anymore and can't handle a little pain and discomfort like those Americans of the 30's and 40's?

The Americans in the 30s and 40s were stupid. We have progressed beyond that.