Should DeSuan Watson be banned from ever playing again in the NFL?

From what I heard, it was like BC and the puddin pops

lmb wrote:

We still have due process in this country

Per criminal charges or civil lawsuits. The NFL, as a private company, can decide whatever works within their framework of rules. They've never been entirely consistent before and can claim any shaky ground as precedent.

Watson, as a good (better than Johnny Football) not great qb (a notch or three below Mahomes, Murray, and Jackson), probably won't be heard from again if the league suspends him like they did Ray Rice. Pissing off a significant portion of your female fanbase isn't much easier to recovery from than pissing off a significant portion of your neocon white male fanbase (a la Kap). He's lost locker room credibility, to boot, a good portion of any team's roster would be disgusted by these things he's done as an adult male. This is an entertainment business and there's a definite line between the optics you can incorporate and those you should avoid at any cost.

Watson was the 2nd best QB last year. Please get your pedestrian QBs out of here.

Putting up numbers isn't entire value. He couldn't lead a whore to bed.

massage the rapist wrote:

Putting up numbers isn't entire value. He couldn't lead a whore to bed.

You have no clue when it comes to football. This was before the scandal:

I think it is too soon to tell. It does seem a little fishy how the lawyer won't file criminal charges because he does not trust the Houston PD. Maybe that has changed?

Do I think he should be permanently be banned? No. After he serves any criminal penalties and/or suspension, I think he should be allowed back. We as a society have to let people make mistakes and improve on it.

The dude clearly has a problem and needs some major help. I don't want to hear how it's not proven. Yes I'm aware something like 20 women have said they gave himi massages with nothing weird going on. So what. 20+ women have said it was weird.

To me, the obvious proof that he needs helps is he's seen 40 different masseuses. Who in the heck does that? Why not get one you like? How in the hell does he have time to DM all these women to book appointments.

Something very strange is going on. Based on his stature, he could get a lot of women in town. I assume he may have been abused as a kid or something as he relationship with sex is weird.

DeTron Lames wrote:

Peyton Manning sexually assaulted a trainer when he was in college, and got away with it. He's on TV doing commercials even though he retired years ago. Everyone loves him.

Beat me to it.

You're the clueless one, Spaztec. I've followed Watson since he was drafted by the Texans. All he's accomplished is take a team with decent offensive weapons and really good defense slightly further than Matt Schaub did. I had far better hopes, but then again it's probably O'Brien who kept the ceiling low for the quarterbacks and offense.

https://twitter.com/_4KOTA/status/1379800977453281280

massage the rapist wrote:

You're the clueless one, Spaztec. I've followed Watson since he was drafted by the Texans. All he's accomplished is take a team with decent offensive weapons and really good defense slightly further than Matt Schaub did. I had far better hopes, but then again it's probably O'Brien who kept the ceiling low for the quarterbacks and offense.

https://twitter.com/_4KOTA/status/1379800977453281280

So you're smarter than every single GM in the NFL? Watson is the type of QB a Super Bowl team could be built around for the next 10+ years

He, Herbert, and Mahomes are the big three of young QBs. They're all mobile, accurate out of the pocket with Watson especially so, Mahomet can get off a decent throw under heavy pressure and Herbert throws the best deep ball in the NFL. It's remarkable to have such talented QBs playing at the same time.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

So you're smarter than every single GM in the NFL? Watson is the type of QB a Super Bowl team could be built around for the next 10+ years

Disingenuous strawman grasp for authority. You posted an article citing anonymous sources. You're not on the level of "every single GM in the NFL" any more than I am, and you wouldn't have clue one as to what any of them actually think. Anonymous leaks about players on other teams are rarely the truth, it's gamesmanship. I just saved you the minimum critical thinking you're unwilling or unable to do, you're welcome.

At any rate, Watson certainly isn't a dud, he's probably still got better potential than say Russ Wilson or Cam Newton. Unfortunately, I don't see him winding up in a much better situation than he had with the Texans. If he's suspended, the only place I could see him winding up is with the Raiders or the Jets. Maybe even if he isn't suspended or banned. No franchise wants to risk the blowback from touching a guy with weird personal problems like his, pun intended.

I looked at about a dozen post-season QB rankings articles and Watson was in the top 5 in every single one.

Maybe him being a great QB no longer matters.

guy drrsijnng wrote:

. If it was a white guy everyone would be protesting.

Please see Ben Roethlisberger.

He has set a new standard in the advanced metric of touchdowns to massage therapists.

I don't think Watson plays this year. Listening to the local Sports hosts here their ruminations have certainly changed. They kept insisting the Texans could trade him for a mother lode have now been replaced by whether he can play again. The latest lady who came forward seemed very credible, Buzzbee has damning IMs and now the police are involved. Things have taken a nasty turn for DeShaun.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I looked at about a dozen post-season QB rankings articles and Watson was in the top 5 in every single one.

He’s 1-2 in the post-season for his career.

Not a chance. Until he’s charged by law enforcement he’ll always have a place to play. The nfl has proven if you have talent then they will always take you back. Especially a talented young quarterback.

The only thing that would maybe change that is if there was video of any of his transgressions lol. Other than that he’ll play as long as he wants.

Think of how hard a$$ the nfl used to be when they banned Vick and he went TO FREAKIN PRISON!!!! They eventually let him back in the league but he had lost out on most of his 100 million dollar contract. Unreal.