Cole Hocker uses the inside move to win in 1:46.60!!

John Wesley Harding wrote:

thehawker wrote:

NCAA favorite, not OT favorite, in any event from 800-10k. He’s Bascially King Ches with better raw speed. You will see when he gets put in a field full of sub 13:20 guys.

He’s only the favorite in the 1500 and 5k, and not an overwhelming favorite in either.

Actually, I wouldn’t say he’s the favorite in the 5k at this point. If Kiptoo, Kurgat, Teare, Grijalva, Mantz, Herrera etc. are on the starting line in good form, it’s easy to imagine Hocker running a good race, a big PR, and finishing ~5th in ~13:20.

If he does this he will likely be outgunned by Timothy Cheruiyot in the process

..so close to Jakob’s PB of 1:46.44

...but Jakob was 20 y.o. when he ran that time however...

Hope that Hocker gets another shot at 800m in a fast race.

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No Jakob was 19 when he ran 1:46.48 last year in June (Jakob is about 9 month older than Hocker)

Dang, I almost want to see that race play out if the ISU guy would've hugged the inside. Seems like he had plenty of run in him but would've needed to swing wide.

I don't get some of the back & forth. This is a good run for someone coming off of a fast indoor mile. It's a PB and the splits show he can likely go faster.

Jakob focuses on both the 1500 & 5k. It makes sense that he has ridiculous strength to go 1:46-3:28-13:02. Even if Cole goes 1:44-45, it's not a guarantee that he breaks 3:30 but this is a good start for him.

Since everybody now runs in “clown shoes” which magically make you a superstar, lol, I guess running is just a clown sport. Everyone should quit running now and let’s end this sad sport. Maybe we should try a sport where zero equipment is required. I heard the international body is going to ban comfortable chairs for chess.

aoadifoupu wrote:

woah that speed in the last hundred though he's gonna be a bear in championship races on the world stage

Prodigious talent and much potential, but I’m not getting my hopes up for 2021 Tokyo Olympics.

Hocker could be a factor in a strategic race. But then again you have guys like Cheruiyot in the 1500 who can take it gun to tape, and will show no respect. Will be exciting to watch no matter what happens.

The same tech in “clown shoes” gets put into all the other sport-specific shoes. Basketball, tennis, etc. so who cares?

What do people think about how he handled the race tactically. Seems like he was in a bad position and got really lucky to sprint straight line at the end.

buzzcolorado wrote:

What do people think about how he handled the race tactically. Seems like he was in a bad position and got really lucky to sprint straight line at the end.

I liked that he didn’t panic, stayed patient and trusted his gut that there would be an opening with 3 guys ahead of him with 200m to go. He was in lane 1 the entire time so even if that lane didn’t open up, I still think he would’ve had enough energy to swing wide and win it.

Compare that to Teare who easily could’ve won his heat but made some errors tactically that costed him the win.

Unless Teare runs the 1500, who do you think is getting him in the 1500?

Probably shouldn’t rule out the NCAA record holder or defending champ just yet.

woah that speed in the last hundred though he's gonna be a bear in championship races on the world stage

I saw that Luis Peralta ran the 400m in the CR DMR, so I thought that he was a 400m runner. I see now that he was already an 800m runner in high school. Anyway, he just ran 1:47 to take third behind Hocker in the 800m, along with that 3:46-7.

Hunter's still arguably better at 800m, and ran 1:45 indoors. However, Hocker with a 3:50 and ability to close a quick race in 25 high is on his way to a 1:44 or better this year, and that might well be enough to take the U.S. title at 1500m and be competitive for a medal.

Hunter wasn't wearing super spikes for his times. Hocker is. Gotta account for the big time advantage

Matt Wisner, a senior transfer from Duke, promptly ran a 6 second pr in the 1500m to get very close to 4:00 equivalent at 3:42.9.

NERunner00053 wrote:

Dang, I almost want to see that race play out if the ISU guy would've hugged the inside. Seems like he had plenty of run in him but would've needed to swing wide.

I don't get some of the back & forth. This is a good run for someone coming off of a fast indoor mile. It's a PB and the splits show he can likely go faster.

Jakob focuses on both the 1500 & 5k. It makes sense that he has ridiculous strength to go 1:46-3:28-13:02. Even if Cole goes 1:44-45, it's not a guarantee that he breaks 3:30 but this is a good start for him.

The splits show he likely ran a perfect race for him. He looked fast in the last 50 because everybody else was slowing down more than him, while strength-based 800 guys usually run their 800's more even.

It is still early but that's not a guarantee he runs faster. I think we will see him go 1:45-3:31-13:20 if he were to run all of his events all-out. I don't think we will see another 5k from him, though.

Officialdb wrote:

Hunter wasn't wearing super spikes for his times. Hocker is. Gotta account for the big time advantage

It’s actually the other way around. Hunter was wearing the air zoom victory which are super shoes spikes built for 800/1500m. Hocker was wearing the dragonflies which are built for 5k/10k. Great Britain’s Elliot Giles ran the second fastest 800m indoor time ever in the Air Zoom Victories.

Those Oregon boys are really on the good stuff.