Did Matt Gaetz have sex with a 17-year old? Or is the victim of an extortion plot?

Ghoster wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

Except that virtually every Democrat in NY is calling for Cuomo to resign. Hardly circle the wagons.

Name one Republican who has called for Gaetz to resign.

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Except there is not one scintilla of evidence that Gaetz has done ANYTHING wrong. The NY Times? Really? The same NY Times that pushed the Russian collusion hoax for years?

LOLz, yes it is all just one big coincidence

Yeah surely this is all just one massive misunderstanding or witch hunt by Barr, who was used to starting bogus investigations against trump’s fiercest cheerleaders. There is absolutely no reason think that Matt Gaetz, the only Congress member who voted against a sex trafficking bill last year, who brought an underage Cuban minor into his care illegally, and who loves to be around young girls, would be implicated in crimes involving underage girls, or “women” as he refers to them.

https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1377417780111151104?s=21

Ghoster wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

Except that virtually every Democrat in NY is calling for Cuomo to resign. Hardly circle the wagons.

Name one Republican who has called for Gaetz to resign.

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Except there is not one scintilla of evidence that Gaetz has done ANYTHING wrong. The NY Times? Really? The same NY Times that pushed the Russian collusion hoax for years?

Thank you for proving my point, about, you know, circling the wagons and all.

And if you pull your head out of the sand for a moment, you'd see that with his weird claim of some extortion plot related to his treatment of "ex-girlfriends", Gaetz has pretty much confirmed the truth of what the NYT reported. Which to be clear wasn't that Gaetz did anything wrong, but only that the DOJ was investigating him for doing something wrong. An investigation that was started under Bill Barr and Donald Trump.

Ghoster wrote:

Except there is not one scintilla of evidence that Gaetz has done ANYTHING wrong. The NY Times? Really? The same NY Times that pushed the Russian collusion hoax for years?

I found several scintillas for you!

1. Matt Gaetz's very best buddy, Joel Greenberg, a former elected official from Florida, has been charged with child sex trafficking and is currently in jail awaiting trail.

2. Based on their investigation into Greenberg, Bill Barr's DOJ determined Gaetz was suspicious enough to merit investigation as well.

3. Matt Gaetz has a history of dating/pursuing much younger women.

4.Matt Gaetz was the ONLY member of congress to vote no on a 2017 human trafficking bill.

5. Matt Gaetz vigorously opposed the reexamination of the sweetheart deal jeffrey epstein received from alex acosta in 2008.

6. The bizarre, nonsensical story Gaetz told on Tucker Carlson's show clearly suggested he has something to hide.

Keep defending him, bro! I'm sure you won't end up regretting it! WWG1WGA!!!!

rojo wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQzLCHLle-g

Mods, do not delete this thread. I apology that similar threads to this have been deleted. That being said, this will be the only topic on this thread.

The answer is that the sex allegation is likely true. The extortion plot may also be true. They are not mutually exclusive.

The DOJ maintains radio silence.

Either Gaetz is right, and this is the biggest 'gubment bad, see" story in ages, or he's just a Right Wing perv. I'm going with perv.

Him having sex with a female regardless of age sounds dubious.

[quote]This is Jim Kiler wrote:

The DOJ maintains radio silence.

The DOJ will not release statements until they conclude everything. They are not dumb like Gaetz making statements to the press.

Should Cuomo not speak to the press? How about when Clinton claimed that he did not have sex with that woman? What is I accuse you? Woukd you remain silent?

Lol.

Dig that head into the sand a little more, buddy!

Also, Trump used material he knew was obtained by an illegal Russian hack at virtually every campaign appearance.

I don't know what you call that but...

Trump campaign also knowingly met with Russians who promised dirt.

I mean, I don't really know what that clown Mueller was doing but, it wasn't much.

migrant wrote:

Should Cuomo not speak to the press? How about when Clinton claimed that he did not have sex with that woman? What is I accuse you? Woukd you remain silent?

Clinton didn't do himself any favors by talking to the press. All Gaetz needed to do was deny the charges and claim that the truth will come out. The more details he provides the deeper the hole he digs for himself.

It is astounding the amount of people here that are trying to find any loophole for Matt Gaetz to get off of the suspicion.

Here's the reality...in practically any job, if it's even realistically suspected that anything of the nature of what Gaetz possibly did, most people can be fired on the spot just on the allegation.

If what he did was true, it's 100% unequivocally not okay.

100%

There is no legal statute that protects what he did, and if it involves human trafficking, it's even worse.

Even more disgusting is the group of people who are insinuating that what Gaetz did is typical, or even the thought process is.

That is a strongly emphatic no. Most people are refined enough to know that you don't engage with minors in that regard.

But maybe I'm wrong about a lot of you...maybe with the PEDs, supplements, diet pills, ephedrines, or whatever crackpot drugs some of you were given by your coaches or through your black market orders, some of you truly don't know where the lines begin and end.

And no...before some of you argue, I know some of you have..so save it

migrant wrote:

Should Cuomo not speak to the press? How about when Clinton claimed that he did not have sex with that woman? What is I accuse you? Woukd you remain silent?

You answered your own question when you wrote about Clinton. He should not have said anything. He would have been better off.

What is so hard for you to understand. Pretty basic stuff. If you ever are unfortunate enough to get picked up for a crime for something you didn't do or have anything to do with keep your mouth shut Hire a lawyer and let him do his job.

Fred Gwynne wrote:

migrant wrote:

Should Cuomo not speak to the press? How about when Clinton claimed that he did not have sex with that woman? What is I accuse you? Woukd you remain silent?

You answered your own question when you wrote about Clinton. He should not have said anything. He would have been better off.

What is so hard for you to understand. Pretty basic stuff. If you ever are unfortunate enough to get picked up for a crime for something you didn't do or have anything to do with keep your mouth shut Hire a lawyer and let him do his job.

Gaetz is guilty

bravissimo wrote:

Gaetz is guilty

The Feds have evidence that Gaetz probably got fake IDs from his pal (Greenberg). No wonder he claimed the 17-year-old girl he took across the state line for sex was older. The fake ID he got for her proves it. Gaetz isn't the sharpest tool.

"Information that may connect Gaetz to a fake ID scheme at the center of the case against that second Florida politician, Joel Greenberg, was presented to federal investigators in a meeting early last year... In the meeting ... the former tax collector in Seminole County, Florida, who was arrested last year on charges that include sex trafficking of a minor and fabricating fake IDs."

And this just in: Creepy Gaetz creepiness just got creepier.

Gaetz showed photos and videos of nude women he said he had slept with to members of the House of Representatives (Gym Jordan?) while on the House floor (while was being paid by taxpayers to work). "Gaetz displayed images of women on his phone and talked about having sex with them. "It was a point of pride," one of the sources said of Gaetz."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/matt-gaetz-photos-women/index.html

This looks really bad for Gaetz, criminal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-creepy-disturbing-case-that-ensnared-matt-gaetz?ref=scroll

What really is going on:

-IMO, the 17 yo girl....is not really a girl.

-He shows naked women photos to his peers to show that he doesn't really like teenage poolboys.

Smoke and mirrors