Nico Young's younger brother Lex broke 9:00 - Can he get the sophomore class record?

Has Lex committed to NAU yet?

Lex seems to have better mechanics than Nico but he also seems more physically mature than Nico was in his sophomore year. Anyways, though, it looks like he'll be a sub 8:40 3200/sub 14 5k guy by his senior year and probably a national champion as well.

Off the top of my head I think 14:27 was an outdoor meet, but in the winter time

And Leo is not far behind. These are the days of miracles and wonders.

#3. Daniel Appleford 9:04, was not in the NP top five last fall, I do believe. Massive PR.

rojo wrote:

Lex ran 14:27 indoors which is right at 8:59 for 2 miles according to John Kellogg's conversion chart so this is very much in line with that.

https://www.letsrun.com/2007/jkconversion.pdf

Unless I'm missing something, John Kellogg's conversion chart is bad. Ridiculously bad.

I was missing something. My eyesight is bad. Ridiculously bad.

Maybe, I guess? He'd of course benefit from JK coaching him.

anonymous maximis wrote:

#3. Daniel Appleford 9:04, was not in the NP top five last fall, I do believe. Massive PR.

He was Newbury Park’s 5th runner at NXN in 2019. He was a key to the team title. NP won by 4 points.

I'd caution against getting hyped with the kids at Newbury Park. They do speed year round. Jury is out on their long term development. Nico already having calf issues now under a D1 program.

Jace Aschbrenner has disappeared since joining Colorado:

https://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/7711487.html

He finished a 183rd at nationals. Clearly not all is well at UC Boulder.

We should really make a chart comparing all the highschool studs (sub 9 for 3200 being a qualifier) in the last decade and see how they performed in college. I would bet that list of guys who went on to do well in college is small. We need to ask ourselves why that is and how do we improve that?

Old Man Runners wrote:

I'd caution against getting hyped with the kids at Newbury Park. They do speed year round. Jury is out on their long term development. Nico already having calf issues now under a D1 program.

Jace Aschbrenner has disappeared since joining Colorado:

https://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/7711487.html

He finished a 183rd at nationals. Clearly not all is well at UC Boulder.

We should really make a chart comparing all the highschool studs (sub 9 for 3200 being a qualifier) in the last decade and see how they performed in college. I would bet that list of guys who went on to do well in college is small. We need to ask ourselves why that is and how do we improve that?

Everyone has bad races, and it looks like Aschbrenner had a bad one at NCAAs. He did run 23:36 for 24th place at Pac 12s, though, so it seems like he has continued to improve. Not everyone is going to have an exponential improvement curve going from high school to college.

IMO Nico's calf issues are more concerning because they could indicate a lack of the durability required to have a successful pro career. He's had a history of major injuries so it might be more of a mechanics/durability problem than his coaches' fault.

Eric Hulst ran an 8:50 2 mile as a sophomore in 1974,

Bingo.

Jace ran well this cross country season. The entire CU team ran poor at NCAA's are you going to blame all their High School coaches. Newbury Park produces studs and gets them ready for college and honestly it's something not many programs have ever accomplished. I'm a fan and get motivated by it.

coach d. wrote:

Eric Hulst ran an 8:50 2 mile as a sophomore in 1974,

Yes, that was broken a few years ago by Cole Sprout.

Nico Young was 4th at NCAA xc as a freshman, joint highest finish by an American freshman since Dathan. He is not exactly poster child of NP college disappointments.

Lex and Leo are great talents with Lex having a better 3200/5000 and Leo having a better mile. I can definitely see the brothers both winning their respective events at the state meet next year. Maybe Aaron Sahlman will win the 800 for a full distance events sweep.

xczvzxcv wrote:

Nico Young was 4th at NCAA xc as a freshman, joint highest finish by an American freshman since Dathan. He is not exactly poster child of NP college disappointments.

Never underestimate LRC's capacity to be disappointed.

Please list the studs other than Nico and Jace that have been prepared to run in college. Their top graduates the past few years have been:

Ethan Ronk

Kyndall Long

Nathaniel Gardner

Ethan Duffy

All obviously very well prepared.

Compare that to their cross town rival’s past few graduating classes:

Mitchell Burr

Ethan Bersley

Michael Mireles

Vianey Ellison

All still running vs none of the NP listed are still running.