Cole Hocker uses 55.22 last lap to run 3:38.99 to win 1500 at Hayward Premiere

Live from Quarantine wrote:

exprose wrote:

Is 800m champ Charlie Hunter actually running the 10k or pacing it?

Pretty sure he's back in Australia for their Olympic trials?

Pretty sure he’s not ...

I never troll.

I put my feelings and inklings out there.

Sometimes I am right, but you back into the good ole boy club of your friends.

Sometimes I'm wrong.

I have no friends nor colleagues on letsrun to type to or for.

I believe the indoor times have been gratuitous...

And now we'll see if I am right or wrong.

Regardless of you or your friends.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

I never troll.

I put my feelings and inklings out there.

Sometimes I am right, but you back into the good ole boy club of your friends.

Sometimes I'm wrong.

I have no friends nor colleagues on letsrun to type to or for.

I believe the indoor times have been gratuitous...

And now we'll see if I am right or wrong.

Regardless of you or your friends.

Oh, so you’re just an effin lunatic.

No, this race will not be won in 3:31 (lol). Some people act like every time out is a perfectly paced, peak fitness time trial in ideal weather. I think Hocker will win, but color me surprised if it’s in under 3:36.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

I'll be honest here and I don't care who agrees or disagrees..

They will do well, but Hayward Field will be the real distance and within the last few months, I firmly believe they have been short-coursing for effect internationally.

Could you explain how they would go about shortening a track? I imagine the easiest thing to do would be to shorten the entire facility, else the dimensions would be off to the naked eye.

vacccccc wrote:

duaboi wrote:

Would it shock anyone if Hocker casually dropped a 3:31?

Yes. Lol. Would shock everyone.

3’40 and 1’48

jabouko wrote:

"Could see some fireworks here, maybe a 3:35 and 1:46 by Hocker?"

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Why not a 3:33 as his recent 3:50 mile indicates?

Correct line of thinking. 3:36 would be outstanding. Hardly ever see straight line progression from successful indoor to outdoor season. I really like Cole and would love to be proven wrong.

Of course it depends on weather conditions and how good the pacing will be but....

I really don´t see why Hocker shouldn´t challenge his indoor 3:50 mile running 3:33 or even faster.

Call me a pessimist but I’ll go with a cautious 3:35 with a huge last 400. Wouldn’t bet against 3:31 at Pre or Monaco tho

objectiveobserver wrote:

jabouko wrote:

"Could see some fireworks here, maybe a 3:35 and 1:46 by Hocker?"

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Why not a 3:33 as his recent 3:50 mile indicates?

Maybe because this is an actual race with actual competition and not a controlled, dual time trial run indoors with a 3:50 partner pacing in perfect conditions with no traffic or tactics.

Predict 3:36 low ftw

objectiveobserver wrote:

Of course it depends on weather conditions and how good the pacing will be but....

I really don´t see why Hocker shouldn´t challenge his indoor 3:50 mile running 3:33 or even faster.

Because:

- optimized relaid indoor track with great pacers

- season opener / mild rust buster after backing off

- looking to simply lay down a mark, not bust it to the moon

This isnt in a vacuum and it isnt as ideal + conditions little windy/swirly

I think 3:35high is a reasonable guess, anywhere 3:34mid-3:37mid makes sense

Wow, some proper stacked fields. I cannot wait for the mouthwatering 1500. The metric mile is my favorite event. The field for the Olympics this year will be insane with the Kenyans, Jakob, Hocker and Teare, assuming they can deliver the goods during the trials.

Oregon Outdoors

Cole Hocker: 1:48.44 | 3:50.55 | 13:32.95

Cooper Teare: 1:49.29 | 3:50.39 | 13:17.13

USA marks: 1:46.25 | 3:37.5 | 13:25.0

OLY marks: 1:45.2 | 3:35.0 | 13.13.5

April 2-3 | Hayward Premiere

- 1500

- Hocker 3:35.8, Teare 3:36.3

- 800

- Hocker 1:46.6, Teare 1:47.1

April 17 | West Coast Classic

- 5000

- Teare 13:11.7, Hocker 13:12.9 (paced team race)

April 23-24 | Oregon Relays USATF

- 1500

- Hocker 3:33.9, Teare 3:34.3 (elite US runners in fast heat)

May 7 | Oregon Twilight (if missing standard, can get it here presumably)

- 4xMile

- Hocker 3:56 split, Teare 3:54 split

——— championship season ———

May 14-16 | PAC-12 Champs

- 800 Hunter/Peralta

- 1500 Hocker/Brown/West

- 5000 Teare

May 27-29 | NCAA West Prelim

- 800 Hunter/Peralta

- 1500 Hocker/Brown/West

- 5000 Teare

June 9-12 | NCAA Champs

- 800 Hunter/Peralta

- 1500 Hocker/Brown/West

- 5000 Teare

June 24-27 | USOT

- 1500

- both Teare and Hocker in the 1500??? I doubt it tho depending on if they get the standard

The shoes, not the tracks, are the reason for the fast times. You can't take a 200m indoor track and make it suddenly 198m.

duaboi wrote:

Would it shock anyone if Hocker casually dropped a 3:31?

Pump the brakes brother.

michiganrunner55 wrote:

The 5000 is stacked. How fast will Kiptoo take it out? You know he wants to vindicate his cross loss to Mantz. Maybe we see a 13:10 race?

Amazing race in prospect. Southern Utah boys will also be in the mix!

duaboi wrote:

Would it shock anyone if Hocker casually dropped a 3:31?

Yes it would shock me. 3:50.XX is a 3:34 and that was perfect time trial situation with only a few people actually racing sitting behind a pacer. I'd be impressed if he runs 3:34 in this race.

michiganrunner55 wrote:

The 5000 is stacked. How fast will Kiptoo take it out? You know he wants to vindicate his cross loss to Mantz. Maybe we see a 13:10 race?

Mantz may run the 10 instead, he's entered in both and I have to assume that means he'll pick which to run at some point. 5/10 double would be badass but probably counterproductive to try.

blindascanbeat wrote:

Wonder if there will be a stream

Pls see above, anyone know?