Terrance MF Laird 19.81 WIND LEGAL

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Thank you. This is what I have been saying for years. This time I am sure, would have won him a medal at many Olympics. But come Nationals, I suspect he will be running 20s because by June, he would have been competing every week for 6 months. The human body cannot perform optimally with such stress. He should cut his season short and focus on the Olympics. I hope he proves me wrong. I look forward to seeing what time he runs at National.

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gfifihogggj wrote:
He probably hit top speed of 43k/h.

It’s interesting how cyclists do everything in their power to be aero, in order to save watts. However, in running, there does not seem to be the same obsession. Any cyclist knows that when you get above 38k/h, being aero become quite important.

In cycling, shaving legs saves approx 15w, shaving arms is approx 4w.

Clearly, Laird should cut/shave his head. There is surely 0.02 to 0.04 right there.

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Not bad but... wrote:
It's NCAAs. Was he tested? I doubt it...

I don't want to be cynical, but I find NCAA results hard to take seriously until they start testing like pros. There's a reason NCAA sprinters often fall of the face of the earth once they leave college

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Ok7272 wrote:

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gfifihogggj wrote:
He probably hit top speed of 43k/h.

It’s interesting how cyclists do everything in their power to be aero, in order to save watts. However, in running, there does not seem to be the same obsession. Any cyclist knows that when you get above 38k/h, being aero become quite important.

In cycling, shaving legs saves approx 15w, shaving arms is approx 4w.

Clearly, Laird should cut/shave his head. There is surely 0.02 to 0.04 right there.

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I'd be curiouis to know what this means

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gfifihogggj wrote:
He probably hit top speed of 43k/h.

It’s interesting how cyclists do everything in their power to be aero, in order to save watts. However, in running, there does not seem to be the same obsession. Any cyclist knows that when you get above 38k/h, being aero become quite important.

In cycling, shaving legs saves approx 15w, shaving arms is approx 4w.

Clearly, Laird should cut/shave his head. There is surely 0.02 to 0.04 right there.

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Runner10287 wrote:

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gfifihogggj wrote:
He probably hit top speed of 43k/h.

It’s interesting how cyclists do everything in their power to be aero, in order to save watts. However, in running, there does not seem to be the same obsession. Any cyclist knows that when you get above 38k/h, being aero become quite important.

In cycling, shaving legs saves approx 15w, shaving arms is approx 4w.

Clearly, Laird should cut/shave his head. There is surely 0.02 to 0.04 right there.

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Aerodynamics mean more in cycling because those speeds are sustained for a longer duration. Like an hour in a TT vs 20 seconds.

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paris2024hawk wrote:
No his indoor PR does not necessarily suggest the time he ran, but he has been capable of a 19.8x for two years he's ran a windy 19.64 in 2019(which covers to 19.84). He likely can run a tenth faster as he had no competition, he appeared to ease up slightly, and its the beginning of outdoor he may not be in peak shape.

He may not run faster but I can see him running 19.70 with a few more races.

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QUESTION: Why was not the Bolling kid in this race?

*grabs popcorn*

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wazzu1452 wrote:
QUESTION: Why was not the Bolling kid in this race?

*grabs popcorn*

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Thanks

When is the next time they race outdoors? That will be something.

*refills popcorn*

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wazzu1452 wrote:
QUESTION: Why was not the Bolling kid in this race?

*grabs popcorn*

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JumpsDoctor wrote:

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Thank you. This is what I have been saying for years. This time I am sure, would have won him a medal at many Olympics. But come Nationals, I suspect he will be running 20s because by June, he would have been competing every week for 6 months. The human body cannot perform optimally with such stress. He should cut his season short and focus on the Olympics. I hope he proves me wrong. I look forward to seeing what time he runs at National.

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It takes less than fifteen minutes of research to see the contrary perspective. Grant Holloway won the indoor 2019 NCAA 60m dash and 60m hurdles, placed third in the long jump and ran on the 4x4. He went on to break the collegiate record in the hurdles in the spring. Then, though he did not show his best form until the moment, he went on to win the gold medal in Doha in the 110H hurdles against the defending Olympic champion and many others. Grant is a freak athlete but he demonstrated that it is totally doable - Laird has much less on his plate as a 100/200/maybe 4x4 guy than Grant did as a jumper, sprinter, and hurdler.

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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JumpsDoctor wrote:

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Thank you. This is what I have been saying for years. This time I am sure, would have won him a medal at many Olympics. But come Nationals, I suspect he will be running 20s because by June, he would have been competing every week for 6 months. The human body cannot perform optimally with such stress. He should cut his season short and focus on the Olympics. I hope he proves me wrong. I look forward to seeing what time he runs at National.

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It takes less than fifteen minutes of research to see the contrary perspective. Grant Holloway won the indoor 2019 NCAA 60m dash and 60m hurdles, placed third in the long jump and ran on the 4x4. He went on to break the collegiate record in the hurdles in the spring. Then, though he did not show his best form until the moment, he went on to win the gold medal in Doha in the 110H hurdles against the defending Olympic champion and many others. Grant is a freak athlete but he demonstrated that it is totally doable - Laird has much less on his plate as a 100/200/maybe 4x4 guy than Grant did as a jumper, sprinter, and hurdler.

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Grant Holloway won the 110H because the Jamaican hurdler ran into Ortega. If he did not obstruct him, Ortega would have won the gold. For your Holloway, I raise you Sha'carri Richardson and Michael Norma who bath ran world class times that would have seen them medal at Worlds. But were nowhere to be found come Worlds. As Ato Bolden continues to state, NCAA athletes run on fumes come global championships.

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JumpsDoctor wrote:
It takes less than fifteen minutes of research to see the contrary perspective. Grant Holloway won the indoor 2019 NCAA 60m dash and 60m hurdles, placed third in the long jump and ran on the 4x4. He went on to break the collegiate record in the hurdles in the spring. Then, though he did not show his best form until the moment, he went on to win the gold medal in Doha in the 110H hurdles against the defending Olympic champion and many others. Grant is a freak athlete but he demonstrated that it is totally doable.

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I'm too lazy to look, but I could swore he (Oduduru) ended up running something like a 10.3 in the first round of the '19 Worlds. It would certainly appear he was TOAST, but I have no intimate knowledge of what happened between NCAAs and Worlds for him. So maybe there's some nuance to his story.

Regardless, he's a classic example.

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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JumpsDoctor wrote:

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Thank you. This is what I have been saying for years. This time I am sure, would have won him a medal at many Olympics. But come Nationals, I suspect he will be running 20s because by June, he would have been competing every week for 6 months. The human body cannot perform optimally with such stress. He should cut his season short and focus on the Olympics. I hope he proves me wrong. I look forward to seeing what time he runs at National.

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It takes less than fifteen minutes of research to see the contrary perspective. Grant Holloway won the indoor 2019 NCAA 60m dash and 60m hurdles, placed third in the long jump and ran on the 4x4. He went on to break the collegiate record in the hurdles in the spring. Then, though he did not show his best form until the moment, he went on to win the gold medal in Doha in the 110H hurdles against the defending Olympic champion and many others. Grant is a freak athlete but he demonstrated that it is totally doable - Laird has much less on his plate as a 100/200/maybe 4x4 guy than Grant did as a jumper, sprinter, and hurdler.

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Grant Holloway won the 110H because the Jamaican hurdler ran into Ortega. If he did not obstruct him, Ortega would have won the gold. For your Holloway, I raise you Sha'carri Richardson and Michael Norma who bath ran world class times that would have seen them medal at Worlds. But were nowhere to be found come Worlds. As Ato Bolden continues to state, NCAA athletes run on fumes come global championships.

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LDoc wrote:

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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JumpsDoctor wrote:

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NYDCRunner1 wrote:

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TrackCoach wrote:

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paris2024hawk wrote:
With better competition he may hit 19.7 low or 19.6 high he smoked everyone in the race.

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Not necessarily!

Wow, it is crazy to think that someone can run 19.81, a massive PR in March and someone thinks they could have run faster. His indoor PR suggest he was a 19.8x guy and that's what he did. And btw he did have competition at the points in the race where it was most important. My only concern and it is a big one, NCAA athletes who run super fast early in the season, 'very often' are shot when it comes time for USATF's. Laird obviously did not take any time off and has no periodization to his season. You can only go to the well about 3 maybe 4 times in a season, he already has one, he has SECs and NCAAs to go which will make 3. This goes for all events and anyone who doubts what I am saying, it only take 15 minutes of research to bear this out.

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Thank you. This is what I have been saying for years. This time I am sure, would have won him a medal at many Olympics. But come Nationals, I suspect he will be running 20s because by June, he would have been competing every week for 6 months. The human body cannot perform optimally with such stress. He should cut his season short and focus on the Olympics. I hope he proves me wrong. I look forward to seeing what time he runs at National.

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It takes less than fifteen minutes of research to see the contrary perspective. Grant Holloway won the indoor 2019 NCAA 60m dash and 60m hurdles, placed third in the long jump and ran on the 4x4. He went on to break the collegiate record in the hurdles in the spring. Then, though he did not show his best form until the moment, he went on to win the gold medal in Doha in the 110H hurdles against the defending Olympic champion and many others. Grant is a freak athlete but he demonstrated that it is totally doable - Laird has much less on his plate as a 100/200/maybe 4x4 guy than Grant did as a jumper, sprinter, and hurdler.

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Grant Holloway won the 110H because the Jamaican hurdler ran into Ortega. If he did not obstruct him, Ortega would have won the gold. For your Holloway, I raise you Sha'carri Richardson and Michael Norma who bath ran world class times that would have seen them medal at Worlds. But were nowhere to be found come Worlds. As Ato Bolden continues to state, NCAA athletes run on fumes come global championships.

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Strange coming from a man who won the NCAA's in 1996 before going on two Olympic bronze medals in the same year (9.90PR, 19.80PR).

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How long until he continues the great American sprinting tradition of copping a doping violation?