Hey Kitty Girl wrote:
They are assigned male at birth. Rhetoric matters. Why do you still choose to call them 'biological men' when they are trans women?
Because they are? Perhaps you want to use a different term. Maybe we just say male and female? or Biologically male and biologically female.
Caitlyn Jenner is a male. So maybe we just say that instead of "assigned male" at birth. Whatever the term is everyone knows what she is. There would be no need to use the word "transgender woman" if she was exactly the same as a woman.
We actually had a discussion this week and of my employees said he didn't agree with our decision to say people on the boards need to refer to people by their preferred pronouns. His argument like yours was that words matter but by insisting we only let people refer to people by certain pronouns, we are ignoring reality. I understand the argument but think it applies more to the abstract.
But if someone is talking about Caitlyn Jenner and in terms of sport wants to use the pronoun "he" to make a point I understand it. On a personal level if you were directly interacting with her I think it would be rude but generally don't you only use a pronoun in referencing someone when they're not there? I
Zhe and whatnot I haven't been in college recently. Have no idea what those pronouns are. "They" for an individual I don't really get either. And this is from a guy who wrote his senior thesis on Women's labor force participation rates in the 19th century and used the word "they" instead of "he" when referring to an abstract person. 25 years later I wonder if the essay won the award for best essay in economics because they thought I was woke. I was just examining an issue.
Caitlyn Jenner is not a woman. Maybe we just leave it at "transgender woman" but if someone wants to say "biologically male" to make sure people don't pretend she is a woman, I don't have a problem with it and it is accurate.