Cole Hocker >>>> Centrowitz

Go review what GOAT stands for, then come back when he’s run 3:30 and has an olympic gold. This board continues to degrade in both basic knowledge and actual content.

Never seen a runner who's one indoor season designated him the all-time best runner the world has ever seen. Never. As good as Hockers indoor season, in an Olympic year its totally irrelevant on the world stage.

I never said All-time best runner the world has ever seen, I said he’s better than Centro.

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

Cole Hocker is already better than Matthew Centrowitz even though he is 19. Hear me out, he nearly beat him in the 5k in the fall (lost by only .03) and just came off of winning the Mile-3k double at Indoor Nationals. He also ran 3:50 in the indoor mile which is superior to every indoor mile ever run collegiately except for his own teammate who he ran it with in Cooper Teare. Hocker already had the Olympic standard conversion for the 1500 for Trials in June ,then we will see who the better runner of the two is and it’s not Centro.

Well, it just so happens there is world championships next year when Hocker will be a junior.

Centro finished 3rd in the WCs as a junior.

If Hocker can get say come close to that, this will be a real conversation of 21 year old vs 21 year Centro.

As far as time trials, Hocker could run 3:45 tomorrow in the full mile. Until he racks up hardware on the world stage it wouldn’t mean much.

Its 2021, Centro made his first team 2011.

Let’s let Cole have a career before he put unnecessary comparisons on him.

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

I never said All-time best runner the world has ever seen, I said he’s better than Centro.

He's not. He has to run 3:29 and win at least 2 gold's or a gold and 2 silvers before you can objectively say he's better.

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

I never said All-time best runner the world has ever seen, I said he’s better than Centro.

Wtf do you think the O-A-T stands for in GOAT?

just a guy being a dude wrote:

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

I never said All-time best runner the world has ever seen, I said he’s better than Centro.

He's not. He has to run 3:29 and win at least 2 gold's or a gold and 2 silvers before you can objectively say he's better.

No. He has to run less than 3:30.40 and win 1 Olympic gold and 1 WC silver before he can be called objectively better. That combo trumps whatever Centro has done in the 1500/mile

That’s just my username lol, I never said he was the best of all time bud

at 21 at 2011 World's, Centro ran 3:36.08 for bronze with a 1:49/51.5/26.1 close. Take out the dopers Kiprop and probably Kiplagat and he would have won gold that year and two years later.

That's superior to 3:53 with a 25 high but slower other splits, though Hocker was pretty much solo and Centro could draft and chase.

Over racing = Over cooked. Peak when it counts.

3:30.40

5x USA Outdoor Champion

2x USA Indoor Champion

Olympic gold medalist

World Indoor Champion

2x World Championship medalist

6x global finalist

VS a guy who ran a 3:50 mile and won a couple NCAA titles. Not even a contest.

Let's make a list of all the US Olympic Gold medalists in the 1500 since 1912.

1. Centro

libertariansarestupe wrote:

Let's make a list of all the US Olympic Gold medalists in the 1500 since 1912.

1. Centro

Lol. Ok. Let's make a list of all the US medalists in the Olys or WCs since 2017...

1.........

Has Centro finished third or higher in any major international race in which he finished with <3:36? Definitely didn't do it in any intl championship.

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

That’s just my username lol, I never said he was the best of all time bud

I’m not your bud.

it's time wrote:

libertariansarestupe wrote:

Let's make a list of all the US Olympic Gold medalists in the 1500 since 1912.

1. Centro

Lol. Ok. Let's make a list of all the US medalists in the Olys or WCs since 2017...

1.........

Clearly, you’re not a competitive racer.

It is possible that Hocker is a better runner then Centro now. It is highly unlikely that Hocker will have a career anywhere in the ballpark of Centro’s. Remember Johnny Gregorek has run under 3:50 indoors. Is he a better runner than Hocker? I doubt it. Pump the brakes on this Hocker kid. Let us first see if he can make an Olympic team.

my two pennies wrote:

3:30.40

5x USA Outdoor Champion

2x USA Indoor Champion

Olympic gold medalist

World Indoor Champion

2x World Championship medalist

6x global finalist

VS a guy who ran a 3:50 mile and won a couple NCAA titles. Not even a contest.

Ok. How many NCAA titles does Centro have?

spikes wrote:

Cole Hocker The Goat wrote:

Cole Hocker is already better than Matthew Centrowitz even though he is 19. Hear me out, he nearly beat him in the 5k in the fall (lost by only .03) and just came off of winning the Mile-3k double at Indoor Nationals. He also ran 3:50 in the indoor mile which is superior to every indoor mile ever run collegiately except for his own teammate who he ran it with in Cooper Teare. Hocker already had the Olympic standard conversion for the 1500 for Trials in June ,then we will see who the better runner of the two is and it’s not Centro.

As far as time trials, Hocker could run 3:45 tomorrow in the full mile.

You lost all credibility by saying this