Teare and Hocker won’t sign with BTC because of Centro.

Can you imagine the 'one-stepping' that might occur when you get competitive/controversy on the same team?

half-stepping* check the fisher podcast name

Al Sal soon to be reinstated. They can go with NOPv2

I think Ben Thomas should start his own pro group with Hocker/Teare/Hunter.

If Nike (and Schumacher) wants them at BTC, then they will get signed to BTC. Teare and Hocker are rising stars while Centrowitz is past his prime as a 1500 runner and not in the conversation where 5000 contenders are concerned. After the Olympics, some veterans will be cut loose to make room for younger athletes with Eugene 2022, Paris 2024, and even LA 2028 in mind.

Team Julien is also a possibility for these two. That squad needs to be re-branded and re-built. Two Oregon guys joining Duck alum Jess Hull would be good story to build around.

Schumacher's group generally isn't Oregon friendly. They'll stay in Eugene, stagnate in 2022, then be forced into Julian's group.

jerrywho wrote:

I think Ben Thomas should start his own pro group with Hocker/Teare/Hunter.

Yeah if I’m those 3 I’m not leaving coach Thomas personally.

Wesfly babyyyyy

Hocker and Teare can both work with the Oregon team for a couple more years with Teare being a ‘voluntary coach’ right? Teare just wouldn’t be allowed to race collegiately.

If a program can produce 2 3:50 mile guys and two more not far behind I’d say that’s a stronger overall miler team/program than BTC right?

And with Centro, if he can’t run a world class 1500 this year he will probably retire right? RIGHT?!? I’d hate to see his legacy further diminished by running slower and slower times as the years go by. If he can’t make the olympics this year it’ll be impossible for him to next year. Hocker and Teare will just be entering their primes, Craig will most likely still be in good form, and there will without a doubt be 1-2 new fast kids like maybe dauschbach (excuse my probably wrong spelling) by that time

And by next year I meant next cycle. I’m a dummy, Ik.

CopperRunner wrote:

Wesfly babyyyyy

That’s all you needed to say.

tuccone wrote:

The two brightest distance stars in America are undoubtedly Teare and Hocker. One might assume they would sign with BTC as it is the most successful group, until you realize the dilemma between Centro and the Oregon team. If BTC wants a chance to sign the two young studs, they need to give Centro the boot.

Neither of those athletes would do well with Bowerman. Just because someone is fast doesn’t mean they go where they want. It’s like a job interview in the big groups. Both parties want to make sure that it’s a good fit.

Besides, you have been the one that has been adamant that BTC is doping in other threads...why would you want your latest sparkly trinkets that have caught your attention to go there if you believe that?

Cilantro will be retired before those two leave Oregon

C yod wrote:

tuccone wrote:

The two brightest distance stars in America are undoubtedly Teare and Hocker. One might assume they would sign with BTC as it is the most successful group, until you realize the dilemma between Centro and the Oregon team. If BTC wants a chance to sign the two young studs, they need to give Centro the boot.

Neither of those athletes would do well with Bowerman. Just because someone is fast doesn’t mean they go where they want. It’s like a job interview in the big groups. Both parties want to make sure that it’s a good fit.

Besides, you have been the one that has been adamant that BTC is doping in other threads...why would you want your latest sparkly trinkets that have caught your attention to go there if you believe that?

1. I still believe BTC is doping

2. I don’t want them to go there and I don’t think they will

BTC's not a miler's group. They are for 3k-5k-10k.

zxcvzcxv wrote:

BTC's not a miler's group. They are for 3k-5k-10k.

I believe that Hocker and Teare will be better in the 3k and 5k during the prime of their pro careers.

tuccone wrote:

The two brightest distance stars in America are undoubtedly Teare and Hocker. One might assume they would sign with BTC as it is the most successful group, until you realize the dilemma between Centro and the Oregon team. If BTC wants a chance to sign the two young studs, they need to give Centro the boot.

They would probably be better off with Julien anyway.

CopperRunner wrote:

And by next year I meant next cycle. I’m a dummy, Ik.

Did you time trial today?

tuccone wrote:

C yod wrote:

Neither of those athletes would do well with Bowerman. Just because someone is fast doesn’t mean they go where they want. It’s like a job interview in the big groups. Both parties want to make sure that it’s a good fit.

Besides, you have been the one that has been adamant that BTC is doping in other threads...why would you want your latest sparkly trinkets that have caught your attention to go there if you believe that?

1. I still believe BTC is doping

2. I don’t want them to go there and I don’t think they will

1) and you are still completely clueless. You know only what you read on this trashy forum from other poorly educated posters that don’t know anything more than you about elite athletics. You feed off each other’s poorly educated opinions that are stated as fact. I have a feeling that you might even still be in high school. Realize that accusations you make are directed towards actual people with actual jobs in the profession. You’ve certainly not spent any time with athletes that you are casually accusing as being unethical and cheaters, nor have you likely even met them. I would be very careful in your accusations going forward, especially with the increasing rumours that certain groups are organizing a push to begin to pursue accusations such as yours from a legal standpoint.

2) they won’t go to BTC.

high school xc coach wrote:

CopperRunner wrote:

And by next year I meant next cycle. I’m a dummy, Ik.

Did you time trial today?

Got to the track and it was 35 degrees, raining and windy. I tried warming up and was soaked and freezing so I called it. I got a good session in on the treadmill though so it’s not all negative.

Next Saturday is looking good tho. Like really good. 50 degrees with a maximum of 5mph wind. Should be the day I join the sub 9:40 club. I’ll keep y’all posted.