Journalist reviews cheater Air Zoom Victory spikes, "My legs felt much less beat up after a tough day on the track."

They're legal though. Why did you call them 'cheaters' ?

They were available in Canada upon worldwide release.

After they sold out they were no longer available in Canada.

There are multiple colour ways available in the United States. Hopefully they get released to Canada for the spring.

Why would you want cushioned spikes? Don't you want to run fast?

Well that certainly proves it! One guy’s opinions ?

So preventing your feet from beaten up is bad? Cheating? Should be banned?

Isn’t that what shoes are supposed to do?

Clickbait sorta title for your thread about the article you authored, lol.

donkeydoug wrote:

They're legal though. Why did you call them 'cheaters' ?

I vote for the deletion of all threads referring to "cheater" shoes- I think most people are over it.

Someone wrote an article on this? Really?

Yeah no kidding - when you can put 10-15mm of foam under the foot to cushion the hundreds (thousands?) of micro impacts/impulses that happen in a track workout then what do you logically and reasonably expect?

When that foam is light enough and compresses easily enough that it doesn't compromise the efficiency of energy/force transfer to the track and hence you run just as fast, then yeah - it's a good thing.

As for "cheater" spikes - well designed with good materials best suitable for use is cheating? Get the f--k out of here. That's called great industrial design.

"Well designed" hahahahaha you have gotta be kidding me. i suppose ben johnson's roids were "well designed" too. much praise due to the drug manufacturer for making those impressive technical improvements in the capabilities of stanozolol and EPO...

people who wear the air zoom victory, and other spikes like it, are not competing in the same sport. plain and simple. inferior athletes are tearing down records left and right the past 2 years, and it is disrespecting the reputation of every athlete who came before them, who ran those times before them, who set those records unaided by an absurd technological boost.

if you want to wear some Elon Musk SpaceX tesla shoes that fundamentally change the nature of competition - fine. but do it in some separate, WWE, XFL-esque league or unsanctioned event where everyone knows ahead of time that you have a piece of technology taking an incredible burden off your muscles and bouncing you to times that you never would've approached otherwise.

and don't give me that BS about how "technology has always improved and been a part of the sport." No. it has not. you can't compare slightly better surfaces and slightly better made spikes over the last 50 years - things that accounted for small improvements - with a comically massive clownshow cushion that accounts for drastic differences. these are not the same things.

Shoe tech got better boomer, it happens. It isn't linear. Get over it.

so we go back to barefoot running? Actually, that was good enough for Abebe Bikila, at least until 1964, when wearing "cheater" shoes became a fad.

TOMAS WASTOLIFE wrote:

inferior athletes are tearing down records left and right the past 2 years

the shoe-haters are the most valuable useful idiots for this marketing scam.

which record breakers were inferior? Cheptegei? Gidey?

which records have shown an abnormal progression compared to past decades? If anything, most of them have slowed down. The ones that have progressed are mainly due to lonely outliers like Cheptegei, Gidey, Dibaba, Kipchoge, Bekele. And that argues against it having anything to do with "tech" that everyone has.

It’s not cheating but def made times get faster across the board. Every runner on YouTube says it themselves, and the clock don’t lie either.

Still, at some point tracks got better, at some point everyone was on drugs. Times change, can’t compare apples and oranges.

tigidig wrote:

so we go back to barefoot running? Actually, that was good enough for Abebe Bikila, at least until 1964, when wearing "cheater" shoes became a fad.

AKA the Skin Callus Next %

available on nikeID

(just don’t use the word sweatshop) ?

Dude, I don't usually get too wound up about the sh$t people like you post - and when I say "people like you" I mean people that don't know or understand the product or even the sport at any discernable performance level.

But in this case, you can f--k right off you absolute muppet weasel. Clown.

The industrial revolution must have been hard for you :/

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

But in this case, you can f--k right off you absolute muppet weasel. Clown.

Anger management would be good for you.

Take care.

Bad Wigins wrote:

TOMAS WASTOLIFE wrote:

inferior athletes are tearing down records left and right the past 2 years

the shoe-haters are the most valuable useful idiots for this marketing scam.

which record breakers were inferior? Cheptegei? Gidey?

which records have shown an abnormal progression compared to past decades? If anything, most of them have slowed down. The ones that have progressed are mainly due to lonely outliers like Cheptegei, Gidey, Dibaba, Kipchoge, Bekele. And that argues against it having anything to do with "tech" that everyone has.

Should world records be eliminated?

What could Martin Hehir run in Bill Rodgers shoes?

Perhaps the mods can change the thread title to:

Nike employees start threads to generate hype.