Hansen was on a power trip and a personal instagram influencer uptick grab the moment she walked in wearing her big man fireman's outift.
Honestly, people should be barred from wearing various uniforms unless they actually represent that position for the trial, like the police chief.
The judge has banned slogans etc in court, honestly, she was trying to sloganism with her uniform - which she disgraced by being reprimanded by the judge.
pupil3142 wrote:
Questions from yesterday.
How did Arondondo not get more closely scrutinised, or was it just not reported?
Its as if Nelson is just taking all this on the chin and not bothering to challenge it. Arondondo is responsible. he is reponsible for the procedures, for the training and for his officiers. he is the chiief of police. how can these people avoid responsibility by mealy mouthed comments about 'ethics and values'. its actions that count, and if DC was wrong, the Arondodndo should be shouldering responsibility. Instead he is getting votes.
Why did nelson not challenge why he was in the squad car? it was the counterfeit, plus the drugged up behaviour leading to investigating possible further crimes. Later transcripts show many forged bills. Forgery is ignored by police in us now?
'Ask community help?' Send for a social worker? Why did Nelson not challenge it?
but i think they are reasonable questions. and i am really not interested or likely to reply anymore to internet trolls claiming to be lawyers. I dont claim to be what i am not. i m just asking questions and exploring the hypothesis.
Criminal lawyers, both defense and prosecutors, are not the brightest in the field. Nelson is difficult to watch. He just can't think what his main points are when he's up there examining. And the open ended questions are just amateurish and damaging. On some of them, he gets better testimony for the state than the prosecutors (who are pretty lame themselves).
He could have at least tried to point out that Arrandondo contradicted Zimmerman (and other officers and his own procedure book) on the utility of the knee restraint. And he should be using Chauvin's words "We'll hold him until EMS shows" constantly with whoever is on the stand. Chauvin is trying to kill a guy that he knows EMS is responding to? No jury is going to buy that, but Nelson doesn't seem to have framed his rhetoric for closing at all.
pupil3142 wrote:
Hansen was on a power trip and a personal instagram influencer uptick grab the moment she walked in wearing her big man fireman's outift.
Honestly, people should be barred from wearing various uniforms unless they actually represent that position for the trial, like the police chief.
The judge has banned slogans etc in court, honestly, she was trying to sloganism with her uniform - which she disgraced by being reprimanded by the judge.
The prosecution witnesses have really got you riled. I can see why.
Chauvin is a hero big time wrote:
Chauvin is a hero!!!
Patriotic Americans support Chauvin!!!
"Patriotic Americans" - code for white racist rednecks.
yawn wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
The witnesses don't buy the defence conjecture. They are sticking to the facts. They aren't hostile. But they may seem so to the Chauvin apologists on this thread, who are hostile to the truth.
So when Williams refuses to answer a yes/no question for the defense and The judge has everybody leave the room to reprimand Hansen, those witnesses were not hostile. You are the most biased person here. Look at the facts and not your emotions.
The facts all point to a murder.
The funny thing is, you think you are getting everyone riled up behind their screens. We aren’t. I hope you are better at your real job then you are trolling.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/541788-percentage-that-thinks-george-floyd-death-was-murder-down-moreArmstronglivs wrote:
The facts all point to a murder.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/541788-percentage-that-thinks-george-floyd-death-was-murder-down-moreArmstronglivs wrote:
The facts all point to a murder.
Floyd's friend Morries Hall is trying to avoid testifying because, according to his lawyer, Hall is worried about being charged with third degree murder for selling Floyd controlled substances that proximately caused Floyd's death. ("Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree . . .")
If Nelson has any advocacy in him, he will find a way to get that fact to the jury.
Muldoon wrote:
Floyd's friend Morries Hall is trying to avoid testifying because, according to his lawyer, Hall is worried about being charged with third degree murder for selling Floyd controlled substances that proximately caused Floyd's death. ("Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree . . .")
If Nelson has any advocacy in him, he will find a way to get that fact to the jury.
A drug dealer with a conscience? Now that sounds really hard to believe!
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Muldoon wrote:
Floyd's friend Morries Hall is trying to avoid testifying because, according to his lawyer, Hall is worried about being charged with third degree murder for selling Floyd controlled substances that proximately caused Floyd's death. ("Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree . . .")
If Nelson has any advocacy in him, he will find a way to get that fact to the jury.
A drug dealer with a conscience? Now that sounds really hard to believe!
I’m unclear what you are referring to. This is self-preservation on Hall’s part.
It’s become a significant issue. I believe only the prosecution can grant immunity, and so far they don’t want to. It appears the prosecution doesn’t want Hall in the case. Which is strange, because they could easily get him to lie about how much fentanyl Floyd ingested.
Muldoonie wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
A drug dealer with a conscience? Now that sounds really hard to believe!
I’m unclear what you are referring to. This is self-preservation on Hall’s part.
It’s become a significant issue. I believe only the prosecution can grant immunity, and so far they don’t want to. It appears the prosecution doesn’t want Hall in the case. Which is strange, because they could easily get him to lie about how much fentanyl Floyd ingested.
I was just joking around about a drug dealer actually worrying about killing someone. Seems like that would be common place with that occupation.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Muldoonie wrote:
I’m unclear what you are referring to. This is self-preservation on Hall’s part.
It’s become a significant issue. I believe only the prosecution can grant immunity, and so far they don’t want to. It appears the prosecution doesn’t want Hall in the case. Which is strange, because they could easily get him to lie about how much fentanyl Floyd ingested.
I was just joking around about a drug dealer actually worrying about killing someone. Seems like that would be common place with that occupation.
Okay, I get it.
Morrie Hall’s concern is real. Minnesota has been out in front on prosecuting drug dealers for overdoses of those they sold drugs. My opinion is that it’s an unfair charge, maybe unConstitional, and just abuse of power by the state - nonsense created in response to the fake opioid “crisis.” You sell something to a willing buyer who knows all the risks, and then face a murder charge, if they die. Give me a break.
And as I pointed out earlier, we have people claiming there is an opioid “crisis” at the same time they are claiming it’s essentially impossible to overdose on the most deadly opioid there is, even when it’s in your body on the day you die.
Muldoon wrote:
pupil3142 wrote:
Questions from yesterday.
How did Arondondo not get more closely scrutinised, or was it just not reported?
Its as if Nelson is just taking all this on the chin and not bothering to challenge it. Arondondo is responsible. he is reponsible for the procedures, for the training and for his officiers. he is the chiief of police. how can these people avoid responsibility by mealy mouthed comments about 'ethics and values'. its actions that count, and if DC was wrong, the Arondodndo should be shouldering responsibility. Instead he is getting votes.
Why did nelson not challenge why he was in the squad car? it was the counterfeit, plus the drugged up behaviour leading to investigating possible further crimes. Later transcripts show many forged bills. Forgery is ignored by police in us now?
'Ask community help?' Send for a social worker? Why did Nelson not challenge it?
but i think they are reasonable questions. and i am really not interested or likely to reply anymore to internet trolls claiming to be lawyers. I dont claim to be what i am not. i m just asking questions and exploring the hypothesis.
Criminal lawyers, both defense and prosecutors, are not the brightest in the field. Nelson is difficult to watch. He just can't think what his main points are when he's up there examining. And the open ended questions are just amateurish and damaging. On some of them, he gets better testimony for the state than the prosecutors (who are pretty lame themselves).
He could have at least tried to point out that Arrandondo contradicted Zimmerman (and other officers and his own procedure book) on the utility of the knee restraint. And he should be using Chauvin's words "We'll hold him until EMS shows" constantly with whoever is on the stand. Chauvin is trying to kill a guy that he knows EMS is responding to? No jury is going to buy that, but Nelson doesn't seem to have framed his rhetoric for closing at all.
Yes. Nelson appears unable to press a point He doesnt repeat points in DCs favour - exactly like the one you mentioned. Its as if he is scared to, and thinks that his summation at the end will do it.
Its as if Nelson HAS framed his rhetoric for closing - but only for then!! He skates next to the point at cross for fear of losing it? Well, they are prosecution witnesses after all.
I am sure Nelson must call Hall for the defense - hostile or not. Then he can introduce all the prior and everything else, like the stash of $20s. Have you sold GF fentany before? take the 5th. where you aware he almost odd? did you sell GF fentanyk that day? 5th. Where you doing fentanyl ith GF that day? 5th. etc etc. Jury is not to draw any inference from the witness using the 5th, lol.
yawn wrote:
The funny thing is, you think you are getting everyone riled up behind their screens. We aren’t. I hope you are better at your real job then you are trolling.
I'm not trying to get you riled up. You can do that all by yourselves. I see the evidence is very upsetting for many of you. It points Chauvin's guilt.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/541788-percentage-that-thinks-george-floyd-death-was-murder-down-moreArmstronglivs wrote:
The facts all point to a murder.
Opinuons aren't facts. Except to Chauvin apologists.
Muldoon wrote:
pupil3142 wrote:
Questions from yesterday.
How did Arondondo not get more closely scrutinised, or was it just not reported?
Its as if Nelson is just taking all this on the chin and not bothering to challenge it. Arondondo is responsible. he is reponsible for the procedures, for the training and for his officiers. he is the chiief of police. how can these people avoid responsibility by mealy mouthed comments about 'ethics and values'. its actions that count, and if DC was wrong, the Arondodndo should be shouldering responsibility. Instead he is getting votes.
Why did nelson not challenge why he was in the squad car? it was the counterfeit, plus the drugged up behaviour leading to investigating possible further crimes. Later transcripts show many forged bills. Forgery is ignored by police in us now?
'Ask community help?' Send for a social worker? Why did Nelson not challenge it?
but i think they are reasonable questions. and i am really not interested or likely to reply anymore to internet trolls claiming to be lawyers. I dont claim to be what i am not. i m just asking questions and exploring the hypothesis.
Criminal lawyers, both defense and prosecutors, are not the brightest in the field. Nelson is difficult to watch. He just can't think what his main points are when he's up there examining. And the open ended questions are just amateurish and damaging. On some of them, he gets better testimony for the state than the prosecutors (who are pretty lame themselves).
He could have at least tried to point out that Arrandondo contradicted Zimmerman (and other officers and his own procedure book) on the utility of the knee restraint. And he should be using Chauvin's words "We'll hold him until EMS shows" constantly with whoever is on the stand. Chauvin is trying to kill a guy that he knows EMS is responding to? No jury is going to buy that, but Nelson doesn't seem to have framed his rhetoric for closing at all.
The verdict of an unqualified amateur. It would be fun watching you lose in a courtroom. So far it remains confined to seeing you lose here.
A Minneapolis Police use-of-force training instructor testified Tuesday that Derek Chauvin's kneeling on George Floyd's neck is not a trained neck restraint tactic.
"We don't train leg-neck restraints with officers in service, and as far as I know, we never have," Lt. Johnny Mercil said.
While neck restraints may be allowed on suspects actively resisting, they are not to be done with the knee and they would not be authorized on a suspect who is handcuffed and under control, he said. Officers are taught to only use force that is proportional to the threat.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/541788-percentage-that-thinks-george-floyd-death-was-murder-down-moreOpinions aren't facts. Except to Chauvin apologists.
As a lawyer (rofl) you know that the facts, from a legal perspective, need to be established in a court of law. That hasnt happened yet. How can a lawyer not know this?
What opinions may be illustrating is that the simple one sided media spin is now being examined more closely and people are less believing of the original media spin.
Armstronglivs wrote:
yawn wrote:
The funny thing is, you think you are getting everyone riled up behind their screens. We aren’t. I hope you are better at your real job then you are trolling.
I'm not trying to get you riled up. You can do that all by yourselves. I see the evidence is very upsetting for many of you. It points Chauvin's guilt.
Opinions aren't facts. Except to Floyd apologists.
See how that works?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Muldoon wrote:
Criminal lawyers, both defense and prosecutors, are not the brightest in the field. Nelson is difficult to watch. He just can't think what his main points are when he's up there examining. And the open ended questions are just amateurish and damaging. On some of them, he gets better testimony for the state than the prosecutors (who are pretty lame themselves).
He could have at least tried to point out that Arrandondo contradicted Zimmerman (and other officers and his own procedure book) on the utility of the knee restraint. And he should be using Chauvin's words "We'll hold him until EMS shows" constantly with whoever is on the stand. Chauvin is trying to kill a guy that he knows EMS is responding to? No jury is going to buy that, but Nelson doesn't seem to have framed his rhetoric for closing at all.
The verdict of an unqualified amateur. It would be fun watching you lose in a courtroom. So far it remains confined to seeing you lose here.
My score keeping has YOU losing badly.
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