FSU??? cmon man you’re KILLING me.
FSU??? cmon man you’re KILLING me.
dang if FSU was as good as you say they are maybe they would've beaten some decent teams by now
Super off topic... but Matt Centro is washed lmao
Wisconsin men
BYU and NAU men. That's all that matters in the Men's race.
Yeah lets have a duel meet then. 14/40 All-Americans will be named and no podium. Sorry Kiptoo maybe next year.
Field announcement:
Any surprises? Anyone get hosed? Did they apply their stated criteria fairly?
How does John Tatter (28th at ACC) make it individually. And Ahmed Muhumed, 49th at Florida State Winter Classic...
The key to getting into NCAAs appears to be beating VMI and crying on social media
Michigan is basically getting punished for going to an actual race. It's a joke that Furman is in this field as the 6 in the SE region and having 0 quality wins.
Basically if Michigan duel meets Oakland they're still 13th ranked and in the field. What motivation is there to race anymore if you can win a bottom tier conference have no other races and still get in the field
Switched up 31 and 32 but hey this was pretty good
The list above was pretty accurate. Only 3 of your top 31 didn't make it - Umass, Oregon, Michigan. They were replaced by Georgetown (33) , Villanova (34) and Duke (35).
Furple wrote:
The key to getting into NCAAs appears to be beating VMI and crying on social media
Michigan is basically getting punished for going to an actual race. It's a joke that Furman is in this field as the 6 in the SE region and having 0 quality wins.
Basically if Michigan duel meets Oakland they're still 13th ranked and in the field. What motivation is there to race anymore if you can win a bottom tier conference have no other races and still get in the field
This is actually a great point. When the criteria came out it basically did disincentivize anyone from racing anywhere but their conference championship. So Furman and Charlotte sat on their results from the fall. Michigan would have been better served to just do what you said, but didn't and oddly is the reason Syracuse got it. I don't think you can deny that without that win they don't get in. Here's where the logic is lost on me: if Michigan is that good that Syracuse beating them earns their way in, how then is Michigan seen as not better than the unranked Furman. You can't have it both ways.
In the end it clear the bias that exists among some conferences, and it's also clear where we are headed in the future. Knowing the massive changes the NCAA is wanting in the qualifying criteria to NCAA XC, this was a preview of the clear importance they want to give to winning your conference championship. Without that, there's no way Furman is in this meet. The door has definitely been opened now to moving that direction and only those deep conferences will be the ones who suffer.
UMASS LOWELL GOT SHAFTED. They took logic that RankingsMcGee used until UMass. Other than that I think I was fair and just.
Who has UMass beaten? Why did they get shafted? I’ve seen nothing to indicate they should have been selected.
With Lopez Segura declining, Tatter was the first finisher not on a qualifying team in the conference. Auto-qualifies...
They got this surprisingly right in a year where it's harder than ever to be objective. A relatively weak year from the mountain and west regions(depth wise)gave them some leeway. Oregon "giving up" their spot helped a lot.
does anyone actually think all these teams are better than even shortchanged Oregon?
york2010 wrote:
does anyone actually think all these teams are better than even shortchanged Oregon?
The west and mountain west regions are loaded even on a a bad year. Every year there are teams from watered-down regions that get in even though they have no business being there. This regional system favors the low performance regions. There just aren't enough AQ bids.
How in the world does the Texas women get left out? Second place at the Big XII Championships last October, ahead of West Virginia and Ok State. Both Ok State and West Virginia competed well at the FSU Winter XC meet and earned their spot on the qualifier list. But that should have only solidified Texas' selection. Biggest shaft of today's selection based off the Committee's own criteria.
BodyOfWork did an outstanding job with his predictions. IMHO the only thing he missed was thinking that the committee would completely shut out the Mid-Atlantic region....28 of 31 great job!