No
No
No
Absolutely.
I do not support any public sector union.
No, professionals such as doctors, lawyers, engineers and teachers should not be unionized.
HRE wrote:
Absolutely.
+1
Teachers? 100% yes
Yes.
yes. the problem is when the other side does not hold them in check.
No. They are trying to manipulate people into thinking they're victims. But this is far from true. They have it better than 95% of the working class. Paid vacation for 4 months in the summer while still making more money than most people. Their work benefits are outlandish. The established teachers can get away with doing ZERO prep work and putting in ZERO effort in class because they know they can hide behind the union. I had some godawful and lazy teachers as a kid--who at the time I loved because I was a kid but then i realized they were just lazy teachers who stunted kids' development for a year.
4 months summer vacation? lol
Limousine Libertarian wrote:
I do not support any public sector union.
Agreed. Whether it is cops, firefighters, or teachers it is incredibly corrupt for a union to be giving campaign contributions to politicians they will then be negotiating their own compensation with. The idea that anyone disputes this fact is absolutely nuts. These public employee unions have huge political sway and have lobbied to artificially inflate their compensation above the market rate. In California where these unions have huge amounts of power, this practice is financially crippling the state and local governments. We keep on increasing the salaries for these employees despite the fact there are regularly far more demand for these positions, which is a good indication that you should decrease compensation until you find the market balance of qualified candidates to align with the required number of positions.
It is perfectly reasonable to have a positive opinion of people in these groups and still say their unions are negative for society.
You're nuts. And misinformed. And despite your rant I suspect you celebrate Citizens United.
The notion that teachers are overpaid is laughable. Are some teachers in some places "overpaid"? Maybe. But I live in one of the 3 or 4 richest counties in the US (I'm not a teacher btw), and here is the local pay chart for teachers. It costs a lot to live here. Dumpy houses are $400K.
For people doing a supposedly important job (and they seem to do it well here, afaik) this is not a lot of money.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/fy21_mcea_salary_schedules.pdfwaer454 wrote:
You're nuts. And misinformed. And despite your rant I suspect you celebrate Citizens United.
The notion that teachers are overpaid is laughable. Are some teachers in some places "overpaid"? Maybe. But I live in one of the 3 or 4 richest counties in the US (I'm not a teacher btw), and here is the local pay chart for teachers. It costs a lot to live here. Dumpy houses are $400K.
For people doing a supposedly important job (and they seem to do it well here, afaik) this is not a lot of money.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/fy21_mcea_salary_schedules.pdf
Wow. I would make nearly $40,000 more working in that district than the one I currently work in! Cost of living is much lower here though!
Sure, let's keep firemen and teachers from donating to political campaigns because politicians negotiate their contracts but let, say, pharmaceutical companies and banks keep donating because politicians never write laws affecting them. (Note sarcasm here.) NO ONE should be allowed to donate to politicians ever.
"NO ONE should be allowed to donate to politicians ever."
So, everyone running for office should self-fund their campaign?
No. They could not care less for kids.
Teachers go to college to train how to teach. They get licensed by the state based on said training.
Then they get a job and are TOLD (ordered) by the admins and school boards (not the union):
What to teach (I thought they trained from this?)
How to teach (Ain't they licensed professionals?)
To waste immense time on std test prep and administration (to make the admins and board look good).
To not even think of meting out any discipline in class and simply suffer with the malcontents and troublemakers.
Do I support teacher's unions?
After the stunts they've pulled the last year?
It started with claiming they were not 'essential workers' and therefore should get to collect their salary while not going to work, while the rest of us either took risk by working, or were laid off and unable to get paid. It then continued when they tried to flip the script asking to be moved to the front of the vaccine line, ahead of elderly at risk for death, claiming now they're so 'essential' they need the vaccine first. Uh, what?!
Vaccine preference is for those who took risk to work throughout he pandemic. It's not for those who hid out for 9 months, took no risk while collecting their paychecks, while they bought groceries from an elderly woman who risked her life worked through the whole pandemic so they could collect their benefits with no risk.
All this, to the detriment of children, many who've suffered greatly with depression and poor academics from the isolation.
So, "Hell no," I don't support teacher's unions. Not anymore.
survey sayss wrote:
No
Absolutely Not!