Pete Julian Post-Race Interview: "It's Not the Shoes"

it's definitely the shoes

When I hear a coach say it is not the shoes I feel the same way when I hear Renato Canova say EPO does not work on Kenyans. My b.s. detector is on full alert.

Rojo has trained his lapdogs well

It’s either the shoes or they are all hardcore dopers. Pete isn’t that good of a coach.

tuccone wrote:

It’s either the shoes or they are all hardcore dopers. Pete isn’t that good of a coach.

Engels 13:36? Koko 31:01? Brazier 1:44?

They’re very strong runs, but based on these athletes histories, all more than plausible times.

Bower Man wrote:

not just "super shoes" which he admits are improvements over shoes of prior years.

So he does admit that the shoes help a bit. Very clickbait title man

white horse wrote:

tuccone wrote:

It’s either the shoes or they are all hardcore dopers. Pete isn’t that good of a coach.

Engels 13:36? Koko 31:01? Brazier 1:44?

They’re very strong runs, but based on these athletes histories, all more than plausible times.

Shhhhhhh. It’s the shoes.

The answer is Simple- if you do not think it is the shoes, stop racing in them. I bet no one will dare not race in them.

It's probably the shoes but not like that, they're just nicely cushioned and the best to run in. But they're not the reason why they're running fast, it's just like Engels said, "spikes in general helo"

rnr wrote:

The answer is Simple- if you do not think it is the shoes, stop racing in them. I bet no one will dare not race in them.

They are the best shoes, and probably help a little bit. But the point he is making is that they don't help so much that they are only running times in the realm they are running due to the shoes. Is a 27:10 worth only 27:30 without the shoes? Absolutely not, it's probably just a few seconds at most. The more important factor, as Ben True said, is that they don't destroy your Achilles/calf as much and you can get back to training normal right after a race.

If the shoes help prevent injury, and maybe make you a second faster, why wouldn't you wear them? But saying they would be significantly slower without them is a joke. As Pete said, she could have run pretty close to that in her streak LT flats. And I believe that as well.

Of course a coach is going to say it's not the shoes. I think that long periods of training without having to worry about travel or racing are helping. The few races that occur are also stacked and the deep competition helps with times. But to say the shoes are only a small part is denying the reality of the statistics.

tuccone wrote:

It’s either the shoes or they are all hardcore dopers. Pete isn’t that good of a coach.

So it's cool and amazing and unquestionable when Ugandans or Ethiopians or Kenyans approach or run under the WR, but US runners running faster than they used to must be suspect and we don't have the kind of coaching to do that with AlSal on suspension.

cramister wrote:

It's probably the shoes but not like that, they're just nicely cushioned and the best to run in. But they're not the reason why they're running fast, it's just like Engels said, "spikes in general helo"

Hello.

Mason Ferlic's interview is refreshingly honest. He says that the shoes are a 10 second (or more) benefit for him in the 5km. He even admits to talking to a friend/competitor and telling him that he is at a disadvantage without a "super" shoe.

Is this the same Pete Julian that didn’t really work with Alberto?

Dr J wrote:

Is this the same Pete Julian that didn’t really work with Alberto?

Yeah it's not the shoes because Julian knows that the sauce is more important.

buenas dias wrote:

cramister wrote:

It's probably the shoes but not like that, they're just nicely cushioned and the best to run in. But they're not the reason why they're running fast, it's just like Engels said, "spikes in general helo"

Hello.

Help lol

and I think the reason why Ferlic and Engels just think different things is because they're entitled to their own opinions and without and hard evidence about the spikes helping, we won't know.

But if you're a nike athlete it makes sense to hype your shoes up anyways

tuccone wrote:

It’s either the shoes or they are all hardcore dopers. Pete isn’t that good of a coach.

When you're getting world junior medalists, national junior record holders, and NCAA champions do you really need to be "that good of a coach?" So often the coaches that get so much love on this site are in reality just getting the best runners. Lol when they end up with average, mediocre runners they still run average times. We've seen it recently... not to call anyone out. So no, a team of the best runners, running the best times isn't evidence of either an amazing coach, amazing shoes, or doping.

Pete is by far the most sensible voice I've heard on this. He's absolutely right, it's the dinosaurs who focus on the shoes to the exclusion of anything else and predictably miss out on the obvious that's right in front of their noses. I never wonder why their particular ceiling is set so low.