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3 years ago 03/03/2021 6:08pm EST

re: John Wesley Harding

John Wesley Harding wrote:
air bannister fan wrote:
Will anybody secure a 1500 Olympic standard (3:35.0). Didn’t seem like anyone was interested in Texas. Kerr and maybe Izaiak Yorks ready?
I think Kerr would if he didn’t already have the standard—as is, the priority is probably to win. Anyone else would come as a pleasant surprise.
Predictions:
W1500 (4:04.20 standard)
1. Elise Cranny 4:02.8
2. Sinclaire Johnson 4:03.1
3. Hanna Green 4:04.1
M1500 (3:35.0)
1. Josh Kerr 3:35.1
2. Amos Bartelsmeyer 3:35.8
3. Matt Centrowitz 3:36.3
W5k (15:10.0)
1. Eilish McColgan 14:59
2. Weini Kelati 15:06
3. Alicia Monson 15:06
M5k (13:13.5)
1. Marc Scott 13:00
2. Grant Fisher 13:02
3. Sean McGorty 13:04

I like these picks. I think Scott will dip under 13. Maybe 57 or 58.

I don't think Bartelsmeyer will beat Centro. I also don't think Green will be quite that quick. A few ticks slower.

3 years ago 03/03/2021 6:10pm EST

re: tuccone

tuccone wrote:
cramister wrote:
Spencer has a 1:49 from college I believe
Wow. That’s almost as fast as the top high schoolers. Real Brooks Beasts material Spence!

Liquori had a 1:48 and he did alright with that

On top of that Malmo has a 1:54 and he did pretty well too

3 years ago 03/03/2021 9:25pm EST

re: Hardy Har Har Har

Hardy Har Har Har wrote:
coachcommentsnicely wrote:
Can we take bets on when Matt Centrowitz will pull out?
Hopefully before he finishes.

LOL!!

3 years ago 03/03/2021 9:35pm EST

re: ZZZZZzzzziiinnnngggerrrrrr

Older story but Robert Brandt is running against a Tinman in the 5k.

Did he say anything about it, or does he only talk when he doesn't have to back it up?

3 years ago 03/04/2021 2:42am EST

re: So Jealous

So Jealous wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
I think Kerr would if he didn’t already have the standard—as is, the priority is probably to win. Anyone else would come as a pleasant surprise.
Predictions:
W1500 (4:04.20 standard)
1. Elise Cranny 4:02.8
2. Sinclaire Johnson 4:03.1
3. Hanna Green 4:04.1
M1500 (3:35.0)
1. Josh Kerr 3:35.1
2. Amos Bartelsmeyer 3:35.8
3. Matt Centrowitz 3:36.3
W5k (15:10.0)
1. Eilish McColgan 14:59
2. Weini Kelati 15:06
3. Alicia Monson 15:06
M5k (13:13.5)
1. Marc Scott 13:00
2. Grant Fisher 13:02
3. Sean McGorty 13:04
I like these picks. I think Scott will dip under 13. Maybe 57 or 58.
I don't think Bartelsmeyer will beat Centro. I also don't think Green will be quite that quick. A few ticks slower.

I'd love to see Scott go <13. Long-term, he has to have Farah's 12:53 British record in his sights. Anything sub-13 puts him No. 2

3 years ago 03/04/2021 1:16pm EST

re: height, vertical jump, etc

I think Brandt's 27:39 from Decembers counts as "backing it up"...

3 years ago 03/04/2021 4:10pm EST

re: Not hating

Update from Evan Jager:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CL-tGu-B4_d/

Per timing system for the meet, Woody & Kieren are rabbits for the M5k.

3 years ago 03/04/2021 7:15pm EST

re: Bower Man III

Bower Man III wrote:
Looks like Schweizer, Hall, Infeld, Fraser --- along w/GDS -- all sitting this one out as racers, so all are candidates for rabbit duties.
Observation: Ahmed, Lomong & Houlihan are not racing this winter. Mo has not run an indoor race since February 2017 (per worldathletics.org profile). Lopez ran last winter but you have to go back to 2017 for his prior indoor race. Shelby, on the other hand, has raced extensively indoors since joining BTC several years ago.
No insights here, but it does appear these three are the elite trio within BTC who are already super fit, don't need winter races to validate their fitness, and --- have something really big planned for the spring prior to the Olympic Trials.
a good article about Mo Ahmed in Canadian Running recently---he mentioned that he is not planning on any indoor races (no real surprise) in order to peak for Tokyo;
Shelby has already admitted in her "Extra Year" BTC Youtube video that Jerry thinks she can break the 5k world record, while Mo looked like he could have run much faster than 12:47 last summer given faster pacing & cooler weather . . . makes one wonder what's in the works.

3 years ago 03/05/2021 7:35am EST

re: paul72

I feel like Emily Sisson is due for a fast 5k time given her great 10k from a couple years ago.

3 years ago 03/05/2021 10:21am EST

re: John Wesley Harding

I like your posts (and your picks). I think Johnson nips Cranny on this one at 4:01.

3 years ago 03/05/2021 5:58pm EST

re: Bower Man V

Please -- Houlihan/Schumacher talking about WRs was just for fun bragtalking. No chance Houlihan (or any American woman) sets the WR at 5,000. To break 14:06, Houlihan would have to go through 3k in 8:27 (her PR is 8:26) and continue at the same pace for another 2k. Not happening.

3 years ago 03/05/2021 6:07pm EST

re: CTC blue

Hope you're right about the 4:01 . . . but that would require the rabbit to take them thru 800m in 2:10 or quicker.

That's a big ask, especially since Sinclaire has won her two recent races in around 4:10.

Even the Payton Jordan 1500s - - held early May -- are usually won in around 4:10.

Elise's pr is 4:05.83 so, I presume, she will be targeting the 4:04.20 Oly standard, while Sinclaire's pr is 4:03.72.

Coming off altitude training more aligned to 10k racing -- Elise nailed that one -- would not expect same level of performance so suddenly in a 1500.

When was the last time a runner set a 10k pr then came back soon afterwards to attempt a 1500 pr? I guess Sifan Hassan from 2019 Doha . . . but now we're in the stratosphere here.

3 years ago 03/05/2021 8:23pm EST

re: queen_bee

queen_bee wrote:
I feel like Emily Sisson is due for a fast 5k time given her great 10k from a couple years ago.

And the marathons she has run in the meantime ...

3 years ago 03/06/2021 1:21am EST

re: paul72

Latest update from Marc Scott:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMER-9unsbV/

Not shy to share his goals is he.

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:03am EST

re: So Jealous

So Jealous wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
I think Kerr would if he didn’t already have the standard—as is, the priority is probably to win. Anyone else would come as a pleasant surprise.
Predictions:
W1500 (4:04.20 standard)
1. Elise Cranny 4:02.8
2. Sinclaire Johnson 4:03.1
3. Hanna Green 4:04.1
M1500 (3:35.0)
1. Josh Kerr 3:35.1
2. Amos Bartelsmeyer 3:35.8
3. Matt Centrowitz 3:36.3
W5k (15:10.0)
1. Eilish McColgan 14:59
2. Weini Kelati 15:06
3. Alicia Monson 15:06
M5k (13:13.5)
1. Marc Scott 13:00
2. Grant Fisher 13:02
3. Sean McGorty 13:04
I like these picks. I think Scott will dip under 13. Maybe 57 or 58.
I don't think Bartelsmeyer will beat Centro. I also don't think Green will be quite that quick. A few ticks slower.

No way this 5K even threatens 13 13:20ish winning time is more likely.

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:06am EST

re: JBaller33

JBaller33 wrote:
No way this 5K even threatens 13 13:20ish winning time is more likely.

Huh, and why is that? Did you see the link directly above your post where Scott explicitly states that sub-13 is their target?

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:14am EST

re: John Wesley Harding

John Wesley Harding wrote:
JBaller33 wrote:
No way this 5K even threatens 13 13:20ish winning time is more likely.
Huh, and why is that? Did you see the link directly above your post where Scott explicitly states that sub-13 is their target?

13:00 being a target is all well and good. No one is in 13:00 form though. Marc Scott also has a PR of 13:22 (I’m not counting indoors). No way he’s dropping 22 seconds without getting on the train of another sub-13 runner. If he breaks 13:20, color me impressed.

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:17am EST

re: John Wesley Harding

The stream starts at 10 pm ET with the first race at 10:30 pm ET.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFe2g1SrVD7OEzlsta23X7g

Entries, results and splits here:

https://finishedresults.trackscoreboard.com/meets/9696/events

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:18am EST

re: JBaller33

JBaller33 wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Huh, and why is that? Did you see the link directly above your post where Scott explicitly states that sub-13 is their target?
13:00 being a target is all well and good. No one is in 13:00 form though. Marc Scott also has a PR of 13:22 (I’m not counting indoors). No way he’s dropping 22 seconds without getting on the train of another sub-13 runner. If he breaks 13:20, color me impressed.

Pretty sure JB is being facetious.

Scott and Fisher ran their SECOND 5000m in 13:24 and :25 last week.

3 years ago 03/06/2021 10:19am EST

re: JBaller33

JBaller33 wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Huh, and why is that? Did you see the link directly above your post where Scott explicitly states that sub-13 is their target?
13:00 being a target is all well and good. No one is in 13:00 form though. Marc Scott also has a PR of 13:22 (I’m not counting indoors). No way he’s dropping 22 seconds without getting on the train of another sub-13 runner. If he breaks 13:20, color me impressed.

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