Auckland in lockdown after one covid case

notreally wrote:

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

IT IS AN ISLAND; that is the reason.

so is Hawaii and 439 people have died????

So is the UK and it has one of the worst death rates in the world.

South Georgia has 0 deaths. They are the model.

Cancun wrote:

notreally wrote:

so is Hawaii and 439 people have died????

So is the UK and it has one of the worst death rates in the world.

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Cool irrelevant story Weezer.

Founding Fathers support common sense restrictions.

https://broadandliberty.com/2020/06/03/chris-tremoglie-the-founders-took-strong-measures-to-stop-pandemics-they-would-today-too/

Cosplaytriots go home DEVASTATED.

Cancun wrote:

Founding Fathers support common sense restrictions.

https://broadandliberty.com/2020/06/03/chris-tremoglie-the-founders-took-strong-measures-to-stop-pandemics-they-would-today-too/

Cosplaytriots go home DEVASTATED.

Washington owned hundreds of slaves throughout his life so it doesn’t shock me that he would possibly be an enemy of freedom today.

Cancun wrote:

Founding Fathers support common sense restrictions.

https://broadandliberty.com/2020/06/03/chris-tremoglie-the-founders-took-strong-measures-to-stop-pandemics-they-would-today-too/

Cosplaytriots go home DEVASTATED.

Bold of this author to assume that the a bunch of dead people would have the same attitudes about covid as they would a virus with about 15x the death rate.

muh gubment wrote:

Cancun wrote:

Founding Fathers support common sense restrictions.

https://broadandliberty.com/2020/06/03/chris-tremoglie-the-founders-took-strong-measures-to-stop-pandemics-they-would-today-too/

Cosplaytriots go home DEVASTATED.

Bold of this author to assume that the a bunch of dead people would have the same attitudes about covid as they would a virus with about 15x the death rate.

But but you said it was about freedoms ??

ENJOY YOUR LOSS

I am Sam wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

so is Hawaii and 439 people have died????

Almost every Covid case in America caught it from another American - not from someone coming from overseas.[/quote]

Can you do the simplest task and get the quoting right? There is a button, click on it and it puts it inside the quotation block for you.

Or are you trolling?[/quote]

There is a simpler task; it's called addressing the point. But you seem to miss that.

Cancun wrote:

Founding Fathers support common sense restrictions.

https://broadandliberty.com/2020/06/03/chris-tremoglie-the-founders-took-strong-measures-to-stop-pandemics-they-would-today-too/

Cosplaytriots go home DEVASTATED.

Average life expectancy in that era was 36 years old. If you asked them today what they would have done about a virus that is killing a far smaller percentage of the population with an average age of 78, they would say something along the lines of "People live to be 78?". The percentage of people we had die last year was in line with the percentage of the population that would have died in an average year in the mid twentieth century. Stop acting like COVID is some great plague.

Armstronglivs wrote:

I am Sam wrote:

Almost every Covid case in America caught it from another American - not from someone coming from overseas.

Can you do the simplest task and get the quoting right? There is a button, click on it and it puts it inside the quotation block for you.

Or are you trolling?[/quote]

There is a simpler task; it's called addressing the point. But you seem to miss that.[/quote]

Where did the first American catch it from then, Armstrong? Did the covid viruses swim across the Pacific? As impenetrable as your logic is, it doesn't look like you thought this one through.

Let it Rupp wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Almost every Covid case in America caught it from another American - not from someone coming from overseas.

Can you do the simplest task and get the quoting right? There is a button, click on it and it puts it inside the quotation block for you.

Or are you trolling?

There is a simpler task; it's called addressing the point. But you seem to miss that.[/quote]

Where did the first American catch it from then, Armstrong? Did the covid viruses swim across the Pacific? As impenetrable as your logic is, it doesn't look like you thought this one through.[/quote]

The first American caught it from someone coming from Europe - just like in my country, it came from overseas. But here's the part you missed: it spread in America to millions and has killed over 500k. In my country it has killed 26. How a country is affected by the disease is entirely an issue of internal management and of preventing infections once it is inside the country. That is where the US has failed abysmally: 4% of the world's population but over 20% of its deaths.

rocky mtns wrote:

comedyre1i3f 2 wrote:

How many illegal aliens each day are entering New Zealand on a given day and seeking medical help in their emergency rooms and clinics?

You can't honestly think undocumented immigration has contributed in any significant way to our Covid death rate?! FFS, pull your head out of your a**.

Yes, NZ is a small island and had the ability to contain Covid better than many places, but they also demonstrated the ability to take one for the team and do something for the greater good. Yes, they have strict lockdowns from time to time, but they have also lived much of the past year with more "freedoms" than Americans. Thinking otherwise is just ignorant.

They are contributing and the Biden Administration is giving them free reign to spread it at will (putting them on buses, refusing to deport them and releasing them into the community). What do you think happens when an illegal alien on a bus with COVID or packed into an SUV does as they spread out across the community?

Cancun wrote:

Cool irrelevant story Weezer.

.....and Toto is better anyway.

Looks like the candy azzes from down under are still trying to rationalize shutting down a city because of one case of the virus.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

"Lockdown"

Aussies have been enjoying sports and concerts in person for months.

One week of restriction is a small price to pay for the life they've been living.

Enjoying the same stuff in Texas but don’t have to lose my freedom after a single COVID case.

So what restrictions is Abbott lifting if you already enjoy as much freedom as Kiwis?

open ure eyes peeple wrote:

Looks like the candy azzes from down under are still trying to rationalize shutting down a city because of one case of the virus.

It isnt difficult to rationalize; we're trying not to follow your example: mass death. At that we are succeeding. You're not.

A Typical LRC Idiot wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Enjoying the same stuff in Texas but don’t have to lose my freedom after a single COVID case.

So what restrictions is Abbott lifting if you already enjoy as much freedom as Kiwis?

Mostly occupancy restrictions will be lifted- restraints were at 75% or something now at 100%. As Texans get more freedom New Zealand loses their freedom.

2600 bro wrote:

"Lockdown"

Aussies have been enjoying sports and concerts in person for months.

One week of restriction is a small price to pay for the life they've been living.

Auckland is in New Zealand.

Close but there