Class action against coaches and GB Gym

no no more wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/26/british-gymnastics-faces-class-action-lawsuit-from-17-alleging-abuse-jennifer-pinches

Who will bother volunteering to try and get athletes to elite level when you risk being in court for being too demanding.

I think that most elite sessions if judged on normal grounds would look like abuse of some form of other.

Does not mean the gymnasts case is without merit but a class action with have unintended consequences.

Read this in the context of the thread about US gym coach and trafficking.

Who would risk coaching.

Wait for GB to cascade down the medal tables.

no no more wrote:

Read this in the context of the thread about US gym coach and trafficking.

Who would risk coaching.

Wait for GB to cascade down the medal tables.

When you start defending pedophiles, you may want to reevaluate your incel values.

OH...TX wrote:

no no more wrote:

Read this in the context of the thread about US gym coach and trafficking.

Who would risk coaching.

Wait for GB to cascade down the medal tables.

When you start defending pedophiles, you may want to reevaluate your incel values.

Let’s not bunch up unrelated things

There are no allegations of pedophilia in this article

This articles looks like the Mary Cain situation. To get to top level in gymnastics, you need to starve yourself, train like an animal and disregard injuries.

It’s the coach’s job to push the kids past their limits

That is obvious.

Let’s look at football. We see same/similar situation here. How many concussions per weekend?

High level sports are unhealthy by nature

It annoys me when people complain about that fact afterwards

Is Mary Cain that stupid? Doesn’t she know how important power per kg is? Of course she had to keep her weight to unnatural levels to be world class.

I feel bad for this gymnast because she was a child. However, her parents are really the ones to blame here. It is the parent’s responsibility to figure out if their child can handle this type of abuse and if they are ok with it, Only very special (strange) children can actually handle that.

I doubt that the situation is much worse at GB gymnastics then it is in the Chinese national team or Russian national team or any other top teams...

There is nothing wrong with recreational gymnastics. She should have simply stuck with that.

I'm responding to the text I quoted where this guy is trying to minimize the sexual assault committed by pedophiles associated with USA gymnastics. Did you really think he started this thread to talk about British gymnastics? Like everything else the incels spam on LRC, the purpose is to foster male grievance.

Are you mentally disturbed? How can you be so flippant about institutionalized child abuse?

Are you disconnected? That’s what high level gymnastics is.

Two choices as a society

1) continue with high level gymnastics ( and other crazy sports like that one) and let parents decide if they want their children go down that path

2) discontinue it because it’s toxic by definition ( for substantially all normal children)

OH...TX wrote:

no no more wrote:

Read this in the context of the thread about US gym coach and trafficking.

Who would risk coaching.

Wait for GB to cascade down the medal tables.

When you start defending pedophiles, you may want to reevaluate your incel values.

Can’t you read; not anything to do with sexual offences

khcglhc wrote:

mods please wrote:

Are you mentally disturbed? How can you be so flippant about institutionalized child abuse?

Are you disconnected? That’s what high level gymnastics is.

Two choices as a society

1) continue with high level gymnastics ( and other crazy sports like that one) and let parents decide if they want their children go down that path

2) discontinue it because it’s toxic by definition ( for substantially all normal children)

Spot on; this is the dilemma.

Coaches caught in the middle will walk away if they have any sense.

There are many many sports looking at all this with great concern

I have a friend who has a girl who was a National level gymnast (not world class. No chance of ever being on a national team).

He said it was pretty simple

Start with the little girls at age 4

From that time on they are on borrowed time until puberty

The girls learn one trick then move on to the next trick and so on and so on

The better ones learn the trick faster

The best ones learn the tricks super fast AND have their puberty later in life

All of them get injured

All of them train when injured

The best ones keep learning new tricks when they are also injured

That’s the game

Stupid game

He didn’t even know what international level gymnastics was. He only knew that it was even worse.

khcglhc wrote:

I have a friend who has a girl who was a National level gymnast (not world class. No chance of ever being on a national team).

He said it was pretty simple

Start with the little girls at age 4

From that time on they are on borrowed time until puberty

The girls learn one trick then move on to the next trick and so on and so on

The better ones learn the trick faster

The best ones learn the tricks super fast AND have their puberty later in life

All of them get injured

All of them train when injured

The best ones keep learning new tricks when they are also injured

That’s the game

Stupid game

He didn’t even know what international level gymnastics was. He only knew that it was even worse.

We all know this.

Think what happens when a court case calls time on it all and coaches get done for such as trafficking.

The consequences for all sports are huge.

Coaches will just give up if they have any sense.

Await GB falling well down the medal tables.