Elliot Giles pulls from Euro Indoors

Something stinks.

If he had potatoes to pick, the usual anti-Africans here would be all over this thread accusing him of all sorts of things.

Raced 6 times in 3 weeks?

as compared to someone like Grice who has raced twice and is also skipping the Euros?

Grice doesn't make teams anyway.

Can't run a championship race so it's a moo point

fishy? wrote:

Grice doesn't make teams anyway.

Can't run a championship race so it's a moo point

qgvgw wrote:

fishy? wrote:

Grice doesn't make teams anyway.

Can't run a championship race so it's a moo point

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good one... the snark is strong in you

Giles doped to the Gills

I don't think it's fishy. I think it's weak sauce.

I get it. In 5 years, people will only remember how he did at the Olympics, if he makes it.

But this is a joke. People wonder why our sport isn't popular. You've got a guy in supreme form -t the form of his life. He's got a shot to win European gold and isntead he wants to train for a race 5 months from now.

I think this seems like a bit of a silly decision really. Why pass up the chance of a medal?

My only thought...what happens if you don't medal at Tokyo?

He'd be the favorite at Euros, and the Euros is one of the few meets outside of Worlds/Olympics that people in our sport (at least the Europeans) care about. To me, the opportunity to become European champion is a big one and outweighs the theoretical gains of "focusing on the Olympics."

Will he be a better runner in the Olympic final for not having raced this weekend? Back in 2016, Matthew Centrowitz and Nick Willis went 1-3 at World Indoors in March...and 1-3 at the Olympics in August.

Yes pretty lame. He will be lucky to make the finals in Tokyo.

Edinburger Abroad wrote:

Yes pretty lame. He will be lucky to make the finals in Tokyo.

^^^^. You nailed it.

Jonathan's's talking about the guy medaling based off of one race? I think your take is way better. To me, the odds that he would win European gold are probably less than that he would win a medal in Tokyo.

Who really thinks he's better than Brazier, Hoppel, Saruni, Korir, or Amos?

rojo wrote:

Edinburger Abroad wrote:

Yes pretty lame. He will be lucky to make the finals in Tokyo.

^^^^. You nailed it.

Jonathan's's talking about the guy medaling based off of one race? I think your take is way better. To me, the odds that he would win European gold are probably less than that he would win a medal in Tokyo.

Who really thinks he's better than Brazier, Hoppel, Saruni, Korir, or Amos?

Winning a medal in Tokyo would probably mean 100 x more to him than winning a depleted European indoors.

Saruni, Korir, and Amos have literally done nothing for 2 or 3 years. Presumably you're talking about Saruni being back on the basis of one race (a 1:45)?

Also bear in mind the covid risk with Poland in a third wave and 10,000+ new infections today - the reason Karsten Warholm has pulled out too. Elliot Giles doesn't have much to gain. He's probably still on cloud nine and will be training like never before now for Tokyo.

He only has a shot at a semi-major medal to gain?

Also with athletes complaining about opportunities at getting race sharp before Olympics during covid, I'd have thought he'd want some more of the action?

I'm not a middle distance guy so maybe I'm missing simething, but if the British marathon trials are happening around the same time as indoors, and these guys are gonna peak for a marathon and then again in tokyo, surely Gilles can muster up another few minutes of racing?

(is is sad that I'm pumped I've got rojo and JGault in a thread)

rojo wrote:

Edinburger Abroad wrote:

Yes pretty lame. He will be lucky to make the finals in Tokyo.

^^^^. You nailed it.

Jonathan's's talking about the guy medaling based off of one race? I think your take is way better. To me, the odds that he would win European gold are probably less than that he would win a medal in Tokyo.

Who really thinks he's better than Brazier, Hoppel, Saruni, Korir, or Amos?

Rojo, you never mention FERGUSON (chose the name for Man United) Cheruiyot Rotich, he of the many consecutive years of sub 1:44s. The guy is a consistent stud and has been in nearly every world final for the last half-decade. Plus Amel Tuka? These guys, both with 1:42 PRs, medalled behind Brazier in Doha.

Perhaps he's erring on the side of caution, or picked up a bit of a twinge.

I share your sentiments, though - would love to see an athlete go at it for his nation while in top form.

Jamie Webb should do well to carry the flag for this Euros. Looking ahead, I think the GBR 800/1500/5000/10000 team this summer is as good on paper as it has ever been. Definitely competitive with KEN, ETH, USA on aggregate

800: Giles | Rowden | Webb

1500: Wightman | Grice | Kerr

5000: Scott | Butchart | West

10000: Farah | Scott | Atkin

thats a pretty damn solid line up

In the last normal year, 2019, Nigel Amos ran 1:41.89 which was the fastest that year and is the fastest run through the present. Just following that race, Amos pulled up injured with an Achilles injury that put him out of most of the season. ...Until coming back fearlessly against Brazier, losing, but not before blazing a 48 second opening 400. Amos is still the only one who really scares Brazier.

rojo wrote:

Edinburger Abroad wrote:

Yes pretty lame. He will be lucky to make the finals in Tokyo.

^^^^. You nailed it.

Jonathan's's talking about the guy medaling based off of one race? I think your take is way better. To me, the odds that he would win European gold are probably less than that he would win a medal in Tokyo.

Who really thinks he's better than Brazier, Hoppel, Saruni, Korir, or Amos?

Saruni? Korir? Why even mention those? Brazier, Hoppel, Amos, and Tuka are all far better.

2021 would likely see Rowden, Burgin, Giles & Langford battle it out in the 800 for best in GB. With Wightman beating them from time to time in DL races.

jabouko wrote:

Perhaps he's erring on the side of caution, or picked up a bit of a twinge.

I share your sentiments, though - would love to see an athlete go at it for his nation while in top form.

Jamie Webb should do well to carry the flag for this Euros. Looking ahead, I think the GBR 800/1500/5000/10000 team this summer is as good on paper as it has ever been. Definitely competitive with KEN, ETH, USA on aggregate

800: Giles | Rowden | Webb

1500: Wightman | Grice | Kerr

5000: Scott | Butchart | West

10000: Farah | Scott | Atkin

thats a pretty damn solid line up

GBR team in the 1500 would certainly be far better than anything the US could put together.

Spain also has a very strong team, and far stronger than the US in Gomez, Fontes, & Ordonez.

Interestingly, even France has a slightly stronger team than the US in Monrozier, Habz, & Tison.