why does the guardian text commentary say 'kick him i n the leg', which seems reasonable for a person refusing to obey legitimate orders.
whereas the video shows the officer clearly kicking him in the face as he is complying.
surely not a typo from the grauniad?
Am I the only one you hasn’t seen this video...Cop was acquitted and received $230,000
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yawn wrote:
I bet the family farm everyone here ripping the cops still dials 911 because someone hurt their feelings.
Does this appear to be excessive force? Yes. But to say context doesn’t matter is ridiculous and disingenuous.
Doesn’t matter how many complaints were filed against them. You have no idea how many people file petty complaints because they feel that receiving a ticket is against their civil rights.
This is true. It’s also true that some cops are racist, violent bullies. I feel bad for people who are victimized by bad cops. I feel bad for good cops who are now vulnerable to bad people because of bad cops. -
Good for the cops...I'm amazed at people who have such sympathy for criminals and lowlifes.
The reason some neighborhoods are chitholes is because so many of the residents condone criminality and have no respect for the police. Maybe we should just wall of those communities and let them rot. -
yawn wrote:
Your reading comprehension seems to be subpar. I said it seemed excessive, you acknowledge that I said it seems excessive. There is nothing more to say there.
But to say that context is never important is just dumb. I’m going to go complete hyperbole on this, but if I was chasing Ted Bundy and he stopped running, I might feel tempted to kick him in the jaw.
You just have a clear bias, as shown in your name, so it’s clear you will just try to spin this for your narrative.
And yes, cops have bogus complaints filed against them all the time.
If you were chasing Ted Bundy or let’s say Jeffery Dahmer and they stopped running and surrendered....yes, you may feel “tempted” to kick him in the jaw but should it be legal? Should angry cops be allowed to punish suspects on the spot? Who gets to determine what crimes qualify for the a$$ beating? You also side stepped my other question. I realize bogus complaints are filed but is it normal for a cop to have 29 use of force complaints? -
TX Social Services wrote:
Would we look at this differently if we knew if he was sexually assaulting a minor and ran from the scene and resisted numerous prior attempts to stop fleeing from the other police officer?
We've seen murderers peacefully arrested without being violently struck by police.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/delaware-dover-officer-not-guilty-police-officer/2020133/#:~:text=A%20jury%20acquitted%20a%20police,felony%20assault%20and%20misdemeanor%20assault.
As to this case:
"A jury acquitted a police officer Tuesday of assault after he kicked a suspect in the head, breaking his jaw."
"Defense attorney James Liguori told jurors Friday in his closing argument that Webster had only seconds to act after Dickerson, who ran from another officer responding to a fight involving a large group of people, repeatedly ignored commands by Webster and another officer, Christopher Hermance, to get on the ground."
So this was all about a fight and not quickly listening to police.
And in the video, we saw he did not pose an imminent threat when the officer viciously kicked him in the head while he was proceeding to lie down for them.
"Dickerson, who has a criminal history and is awaiting trial on unrelated charges involving stolen guns, was charged with resisting arrest after fleeing from the officer at the fight scene. That charge was later dropped."
The victim of the brutality did have a criminal record but the cop was not aware of that at the time and you don't go breaking jaws for that.
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This is clearly wrong. This is outright assault!! The man did comply with the officer request, you cannot just go and kick someone in the face if they are not resisting arrest. For those of you who never read our founding documents he is not guilty until he is convicted by a jury.
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That is correct. The cop was not guilty of any crime. You cleared that up for everyone.
And why do blacks continue to commit crimes at a rate five times higher than that of whites? Why does the media never mention that? -
Look armchair buddies, a good part of cops lives are spent dealing with people who don't confirm to normal behavioural standards, they aren't polite, don't do what they are asked, they are aggressive, are violent and all sorts of things you armchair chaps would run a mile from, but our police have to deal with this every day to keep us ALL safe. How long do you think you'd last of you had to accompany an officer in parts of Portland, Chicago, etc.
It's about time people stopped pissing on the police and instead offered them respect and support in doing a very difficult task. -
nbzeik wrote:
No. I don’t look at it differently and I doubt that officer had that informations at that time. Frankly, the officer’s racist violence is as equally disgusting as assault on a minor.
Does the minor get $230k as well? Does this victim of police brutality?
Why is he a racist? Because it involved someone of a different race? Is it possible he made a huge mistake, but isn't a racist? It's amazing how this racist narrative permeates the mind of progressives. It's reached the point where many can't see anything except race. Progressives are the new racists. -
Yes, police are often put in dangerous situations and need to be authoritative.
But they also need to be held accountable if they do something wrong just as they are trying to hold criminals accountable for their actions. -
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runnerboy70 wrote:
Good for the cops...I'm amazed at people who have such sympathy for criminals and lowlifes.
The reason some neighborhoods are chitholes is because so many of the residents condone criminality and have no respect for the police. Maybe we should just wall of those communities and let them rot.
This cop is a criminal and a lowlife - why the sympathy for him? -
The justice system found him to not be guilty. Only a lowlife would call an innocent person a lowlife. I am sure that you call every black person accused of a crime a lowlife.
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Gibstar wrote:
Look armchair buddies, a good part of cops lives are spent dealing with people who don't confirm to normal behavioural standards, they aren't polite, don't do what they are asked, they are aggressive, are violent and all sorts of things you armchair chaps would run a mile from, but our police have to deal with this every day to keep us ALL safe. How long do you think you'd last of you had to accompany an officer in parts of Portland, Chicago, etc.
It's about time people stopped pissing on the police and instead offered them respect and support in doing a very difficult task.
😂The Ol “Police have a tough job” excuse. That’s getting old. If they can’t handle the pressure maybe they should be an accountant or some other job. Actually, being a cop is not a hard or dangerous occupation. It’s not even in the top 20 most dangerous job. A logger, roofer or truck driver is a more dangerous.
https://www.ishn.com/articles/110496-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-us-the-top-20
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Blue Is Good wrote:
The justice system found him to not be guilty.
Then the problem is the system.
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Blue Is Good wrote:
The justice system found him to not be guilty. Only a lowlife would call an innocent person a lowlife. I am sure that you call every black person accused of a crime a lowlife.
The video showed him to be a lowlife. I’d say the same if the officer was black. Why are you supporting this lowlife? It makes it harder for good police to do their job. -
Colby wrote:
This is clearly wrong. This is outright assault!! The man did comply with the officer request, you cannot just go and kick someone in the face if they are not resisting arrest. For those of you who never read our founding documents he is not guilty until he is convicted by a jury.
When did he comply? In the position he was in before not listening and not following directions he could have easily swept the cops legs out from under him. Had he not been in a bad situation, had he not resisted arrest, had he not fled the scene, and had he complied completely with the commands of the cop we see in the video, I'm guessing he would NOT have received a kick.
Polite people don't have problems with the police. PLEASE try and remember that! -
I always ask myself, why don't people do what's asked of them (usually politely from my limited observation of US law enforcement). They make that simple choice.
I'd like to set up a series of refuges for these ne'er do wells the liberals cry crocodile tears for. Buy up the lots next to liberal, their parents and children, turn the lots into safe havens for the ne'er do wells to live. Disable emergency response phone lines from the area, as the liberals can resolve everything though community resolution rather than inflame tensions by calling the police.
Being in such a supportive situation the ne'er-do-well will not trash the neighborhood, commit crimes, etc, instead the environment will allow them to raise their standards of behaviour up to the level of the liberal and everyone will be happy.
Meanwhile in the real world, the liberals would object to the planning application arguing it would be better sited elsewhere (poor neighborhood) and if this failed, sell up as fast as possible and flee to a nice neighborhood. -
So police can indiscriminately kick prone subjects in the face or else liberals can't use police? That's not a very sound argument.
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Thugs in Blue wrote:
Gibstar wrote:
Look armchair buddies, a good part of cops lives are spent dealing with people who don't confirm to normal behavioural standards, they aren't polite, don't do what they are asked, they are aggressive, are violent and all sorts of things you armchair chaps would run a mile from, but our police have to deal with this every day to keep us ALL safe. How long do you think you'd last of you had to accompany an officer in parts of Portland, Chicago, etc.
It's about time people stopped pissing on the police and instead offered them respect and support in doing a very difficult task.
😂The Ol “Police have a tough job” excuse. That’s getting old. If they can’t handle the pressure maybe they should be an accountant or some other job. Actually, being a cop is not a hard or dangerous occupation. It’s not even in the top 20 most dangerous job. A logger, roofer or truck driver is a more dangerous.
https://www.ishn.com/articles/110496-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-us-the-top-20
It’s time to stop making excuses for these cowards.
False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty_in_the_United_States
