This was at the end of this summer going into my senior year of HS, but I never got the chance to race due to injury.
I ran 4 months of 80-100MPW then dropped to mid-50s with 2 workouts a week for 5 weeks until I got injured, and unfortunately never got the chance to race. Before I started the workouts I did a 4-mile tempo on the track in my last week of peak base mileage(100) at 5:22 pace which felt like 85% effort.
My Best Workouts:
4x1600 at 4:48 with 800 jog
7x1000m at 2:54 with 600 jog
10x400m at 64mid with 400 jog (this was the day of my stress fracture)
What 5k shape am I in? 14:30??
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You’re resting too much between intervals. With better training you’ll be very good.
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Disko Eric wrote:
You’re resting too much between intervals. With better training you’ll be very good.
How much rest would you suggest for me in the future? Any other training tips? -
why did you post the same thread twice? a little insecure aren't we?
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Yeah Sure... wrote:
why did you post the same thread twice? a little insecure aren't we?
So I can actually get a response. Wanna help me out or no? -
What type of stress fracture was it?
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It was a stress fracture in my right femoral shaft. Didn't show up on the x-ray, but appeared once they did an MRI.
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Dioun wrote:
Yeah Sure... wrote:
why did you post the same thread twice? a little insecure aren't we?
So I can actually get a response. Wanna help me out or no?
if you want some advice don't go asking a message board about what fitness you are in. the best way to see how fit you are is to actually race. -
Yeah Sure... wrote:
Dioun wrote:
Yeah Sure... wrote:
why did you post the same thread twice? a little insecure aren't we?
So I can actually get a response. Wanna help me out or no?
if you want some advice don't go asking a message board about what fitness you are in. the best way to see how fit you are is to actually race.
Well in case you didn't read the post, I got injured with a stress fracture before I was able to race, and I'm currently just beginning to return to running after months of only croostraining.
If you're so smart why don't you just take a guess as to what I could run instead of being a dick about it. -
I'd say you were in 4:01 1500m - 8:35 3k - 14:50 5k shape. Also, @Disko Eric is wrong, the rest for those workouts is fine, vo2max workouts usually have 1:
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[continued... hit enter by accident] ...1:1 time recovery, and taking around 90s-2min rest for a voluminous 1500m pace workout is also fine, especially if you're training for the 5k primarily.
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another collegiate intensive jogger wrote:
[continued... hit enter by accident] ...1:1 time recovery, and taking around 90s-2min rest for a voluminous 1500m pace workout is also fine, especially if you're training for the 5k primarily.
Ok, thank you, yeah I was going off of trying to be around 1:1 for the VO2 pace stuff that makes sense -
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another collegiate intensive jogger wrote:
I'd say you were in 4:01 1500m - 8:35 3k - 14:50 5k shape. Also, @Disko Eric is wrong, the rest for those workouts is fine, vo2max workouts usually have 1:
This feels about right to me if the 4-mile tempo was easy as you say. -
another collegiate intensive jogger wrote:
I'd say you were in 4:01 1500m - 8:35 3k - 14:50 5k shape. Also, @Disko Eric is wrong, the rest for those workouts is fine, vo2max workouts usually have 1:
The rest is too long for a VO2 workout if you’re judging by the 1600’s. You rest too long and it turns into a speed workout. I’m no pro or coach, but I’d cut that 1600m rest in half. Or maybe even a 200m jog to really get your body race ready. No one is giving you an 800m rest in a race. -
These are the workouts of a 4:00/8:30/14:45 guy but could be anywhere from 3:55/8:20/14:30 to 4:05/8:40/15:00 honestly. I even know some D3 15:10 guys that could bust these out easily.
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Disko Eric wrote:
another collegiate intensive jogger wrote:
I'd say you were in 4:01 1500m - 8:35 3k - 14:50 5k shape. Also, @Disko Eric is wrong, the rest for those workouts is fine, vo2max workouts usually have 1:
The rest is too long for a VO2 workout if you’re judging by the 1600’s. You rest too long and it turns into a speed workout. I’m no pro or coach, but I’d cut that 1600m rest in half. Or maybe even a 200m jog to really get your body race ready. No one is giving you an 800m rest in a race.
Im sorry but this is just bad advice. Unless you want a race simulation session (and mile repeats wouldn’t be my ideal workout for that) , jogging 800m in 4 mins (assuming 8 min pace) is perfect rest for a vo2max mile rep session. 4xmile at just over 5k pace with 2 min jog rest is a solid late season peaking, workout and with just 1 min rest it’s basically as hard as a race.
In my opinion, these sessions aren’t very useful other than to simulate a race, and the op said that wasn’t his goal for these sessions. Train to get fit, not to crush workouts. -
Without knowing your PR’s I would guess around 15:00 or a shade under. Agreed, too much recovery on intervals and also too much mileage during that 4month span (especially for a high schooler; which likely contributed to your injury).
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