How in the hell did Kieran Tuntivate, a guy with a 13:57 pb, just run 27:17?

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3 years ago 03/03/2021 3:09pm EST

re: xcrunner2256

xcrunner2256 wrote:The previous national record for Thailand was over 2:00 slower than Kierans time. He would have nobody to train with and clearly the Thai track infrastructure is not that great considering how weak the records are.

As far as facilities go, the National Stadium is first class and has hosted many international events. They do have an administration in place and there is a big interest in running but mostly among the urban elites. In the rural areas not as much although there are a lot of events hosted there. Perhaps Kieran could be the catalyst that starts the running boo in Thailand?

I guess the same could be said for Kenya 65 years ago. There wasn't an administration in place and you never heard of a Kenyan doing well in any event. Times have changed and now they have produced many WR holders.

1 year ago 09/19/2022 3:57am EDT

re: Khon Thai (again)

the running boom in Thailand is at the hobbyjogging level, not the elite level. they go to events for the free shirt and food and for the photos to put on social media. they aren't running seriously, few care about PBs.

it's nothing to do with facilities. kenyans are running on dirt roads. thais do okay at badminton which needs facilities. a large part is genetics and the rest is culture and attitude. Thais and neighbouring south east asian countries have a fun-loving type of attitude, they don't want to push themselves because that becomes not fun after a certain point. they aren't mentally tough, the will to win isn't there, there is too much apathy.
distance running is a sport that requires a lot of effort and stamina and a real will to conquer one's personal limits. Thais are lazy, they say they are 'tired' after work, but this is a euphemism for lazy. Of course there are exceptions but your pool of potential pro runners dwindles significantly.

and then there is the education culture. physical education is not pursued in schools beyond the bare minimum. there is no culture of training or racing after school (to be fair, it is very hot to do any kind of outdoor exercise). you are rewarded for not excelling - it is impossible to fail a subject in many Thai schools, the teachers will 'help' you until you pass. this sets a low standard within society.

1 year ago 09/21/2022 10:45am EDT

re: fdggdfg

fdggdfg wrote:
the running boom in Thailand is at the hobbyjogging level, not the elite level. they go to events for the free shirt and food and for the photos to put on social media. they aren't running seriously, few care about PBs.
it's nothing to do with facilities. kenyans are running on dirt roads. thais do okay at badminton which needs facilities. a large part is genetics and the rest is culture and attitude. Thais and neighbouring south east asian countries have a fun-loving type of attitude, they don't want to push themselves because that becomes not fun after a certain point. they aren't mentally tough, the will to win isn't there, there is too much apathy.
distance running is a sport that requires a lot of effort and stamina and a real will to conquer one's personal limits. Thais are lazy, they say they are 'tired' after work, but this is a euphemism for lazy. Of course there are exceptions but your pool of potential pro runners dwindles significantly.
and then there is the education culture. physical education is not pursued in schools beyond the bare minimum. there is no culture of training or racing after school (to be fair, it is very hot to do any kind of outdoor exercise). you are rewarded for not excelling - it is impossible to fail a subject in many Thai schools, the teachers will 'help' you until you pass. this sets a low standard within society.

All very valid points. Yes, most Thais are hobby joggers and most come from the urban dwellers. Just look at Lumphini on a Saturday or Sunday morning. It's literally choked with people out running laps (well, at least pre-Covid). It's been like that for over 20 years now but not a lot of serious runners. My point is, maybe this could change that trend?

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