Lets say someone can run a 4:30 mile, 15:50 5k and a 9:45 3200m in high school, im not saying how hard it would be but what im saying is it even possible for someone with those times be able to be an all American in the next 5 years?
Lets say someone can run a 4:30 mile, 15:50 5k and a 9:45 3200m in high school, im not saying how hard it would be but what im saying is it even possible for someone with those times be able to be an all American in the next 5 years?
Impossible. Forget your dreams and find accept mediocrity. ?
When you say it is impossible, do you mean it is genetically impossible, or just simply too much hard work and too much luck of not getting injured and all kinds of environmental factors.
If it's the second part then it doesn't count.
It doesn't matter if we think it's possible or not, train your butt off and make the good choices outside of practice and just see how far your body can take you.
Become more process-oriented, focus on the little day-to-day things that you normally gloss over and do them correctly and well. Rinse and repeat for a few years and see if you can get down close enough to give yourself a shot. That's all you can ask for.
Ryan Hill had a good quote about how you work as hard as you do just to give yourself a 50-50 chance of reaching your goals. It's good advice. Working hard isn't guaranteed for success but it's guaranteed to give you a chance.
Only if undertrained and you go NAIA or switch genders.
WinnytheBish wrote:
It doesn't matter if we think it's possible or not, train your butt off and make the good choices outside of practice and just see how far your body can take you.
Become more process-oriented, focus on the little day-to-day things that you normally gloss over and do them correctly and well. Rinse and repeat for a few years and see if you can get down close enough to give yourself a shot. That's all you can ask for.
Ryan Hill had a good quote about how you work as hard as you do just to give yourself a 50-50 chance of reaching your goals. It's good advice. Working hard isn't guaranteed for success but it's guaranteed to give you a chance.
Extremely well said. Nick Symmonds once said something along those lines as well. Why even set goals if you never attempt to reach them? Isn't it better to train hard and improve, even if you don't meet your goals, than to never try to reach them at all?
No no i will push myself to what i can do no matter what i was just curious if there is a genetic barrier between being good vs elite. The biggest problem im having is if im doing the correct workouts, i want to push myself as hard as i can but i want to be smart and not burn out like i did last year.
not sure about All American in 5 years but,although I don't know his specific PR's, I believe that 3200 is faster than Brian Snell ran in HS. I think I read somewhere that he didn't or barely broke 10;00 inHS. He had a pretty good career.
LMGTY
Sell was undertrained and inexperienced in high school.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1312777&page=1
https://ccooper.typepad.com/writing_on_the_run/2010/06/an-interview-with-brian-sell.html
If they have the talent it can happen
Just work on being the best in your county, or section, or state, and then when you make it to college work on being the best in the conference, or the region, and then to all American territory
Just be a competitor
Socialanxietyrunner wrote:
Lets say someone can run a 4:30 mile, 15:50 5k and a 9:45 3200m in high school, im not saying how hard it would be but what im saying is it even possible for someone with those times be able to be an all American in the next 5 years?
If they have the natural speed, then the potential is there.
Socialanxietyrunner wrote:
No no i will push myself to what i can do no matter what i was just curious if there is a genetic barrier between being good vs elite. The biggest problem im having is if im doing the correct workouts, i want to push myself as hard as i can but i want to be smart and not burn out like i did last year.
There most definitely is.
Yeah it's possible. But that's a massive uphill battle. It depends on how you respond to college level training compared to your peers. You would need to be an EXTREME outlier in regards to how your body adjusts to big boy miles and workouts. But yeah stranger things have happened.
i personally know an All America whose mile time in high school was 4:46
As a high school sophomore I was almost the same as you (4:40, 9:43). Four years later I was a XC All-America. But I wasn't thinking about All-America or times I wanted to run, I was thinking about who I wanted to beat in the immediate moment, and then who I wanted to beat after I accomplished that,
Focus on the here and now. Step on some people. Then step on some more. What will happen in the future will take care of itself.
Like he said.
It isn't impossible. We general reserve that word for, well, not much. But I think you shouldn't get fixated on one goal. It sounds like you have a propensity for overdoing it and that is probably your biggest obstacle. Your dreams can become reality, Socialanxietyrunner!
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