How does Centro feel about Hocker being only 0.02 slower than him at the mile?

If you really want to keep this up, then let's evaluate...

Cole Hocker is quick..lightning quick...he may eventually BE the best.

But..only one man has the hardware to prove he is the best...internationally:

Matt Centrowitz, Jr.

Cole could run Centro into the dust until the cows come home, and maybe Hocker will be the WR holder.

But.. People will still be talking about the last Olympic Gold Medalist being Centro...IN ACCORDANCE WITH the fastest miler being Hocker.

And, since the Olympic Games only compete at 1500m, ONLY IF Hocker beats the WR AND gets the gold doing it can he lessen Centro.

EOS.

There is no comparison. If centro had super spikes, which seem to be 3-4s per mile boost at least, do the math.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

If you really want to keep this up, then let's evaluate...

Cole Hocker is quick..lightning quick...he may eventually BE the best.

But..only one man has the hardware to prove he is the best...internationally:

Matt Centrowitz, Jr.

Cole could run Centro into the dust until the cows come home, and maybe Hocker will be the WR holder.

But.. People will still be talking about the last Olympic Gold Medalist being Centro...IN ACCORDANCE WITH the fastest miler being Hocker.

And, since the Olympic Games only compete at 1500m, ONLY IF Hocker beats the WR AND gets the gold doing it can he lessen Centro.

EOS.

wtf

Anyway OP, get real, a fit Centrowitz beats current Hocker at 1200m. JASON GOMEZ OF ISU BEAT HOCKER HEAD-TO-HEAD IN THAT 1200.

.02 sec, 2 sec, 20 seconds. Faster is faster . Winning is winning. How’s it feel being a loser? Gobble gobble.

Centro as a 3:30 1500 PR, so that's a 3:46 mile.

It should be remembered that Centro in unique in how his PRs don't really match his highly impressive record of medals in the Olympics and WCs. He has won gold and (I think) two WC medals. Plus at this point of his career the sheer amount of fast high level races he has been in is impressive. So, to only have a 3:30 PR is actually surprisingly slow.

Ryan Foreman wrote:

So, to only have a 3:30 PR is actually surprisingly slow.

He was 10th in that race BTW.

Centro is a great tactical racer, his PRs are not as good as his hardware would make you think, like Mo Farah. This hypothetical DMR would not be in a tactical race, it would be out front. Pure speed is the name of the game in that context.

We need to be referring to him as Cilantro on these boards now

Didn't Centro close in sub 51 in his Olympic victory? That is big time, world class, unparalleled closing speed.

Maybe these other guys will get some gold hardware, maybe they will end up with faster PRs. But Centro will always be Olympic champ with an unbelievable close. And before other folks start yakking about how slow the race was for the first 2.75 laps...then why did none of those other world class athletes close faster?

It's unbelievable how much flak Centro and Rupp get on this board. Americans that have proven to this new generation that we can compete with the best in the world.

Wanjiru's best marathon time is only 119th on the record eligible list. Times aren't everything.

Hocker is a career loser so far. He’s lost every time he’s raced. He’s the anti Centro.

Again — what’s the point of racing? To win.

Losers focus on times. Winners focus on winning.

Oh Please wrote:

Didn't Centro close in sub 51 in his Olympic victory? That is big time, world class, unparalleled closing speed.

In a 4:07 mile equivalent "race." Hobby walk three 2-3/4 laps and then "run." Put some good 400/800m guys in the same race and Centro gets dusted.

never amazed wrote:

Hocker is a career loser so far. He’s lost every time he’s raced. He’s the anti Centro.

Centro's 1500 PR was set in a race he finished 10th in.

centro's fool's gold wrote:

never amazed wrote:

Hocker is a career loser so far. He’s lost every time he’s raced. He’s the anti Centro.

Centro's 1500 PR was set in a race he finished 10th in.

He’s still the Olympic Champ.

Admittedly, Cole will almost veritably never win the Olympics. So let’s set the bar lower to some of centro’s other accomplishments.

Let’s bring this thread back up in 2 years when Cole is 21. Let’s see if he can her 3rd in the 1500 at worlds.

centro's fool's gold wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

Didn't Centro close in sub 51 in his Olympic victory? That is big time, world class, unparalleled closing speed.

In a 4:07 mile equivalent "race." Hobby walk three 2-3/4 laps and then "run." Put some good 400/800m guys in the same race and Centro gets dusted.

Ummm ever heard of the Algerian Sheikh Makh Daddy Loofy

do you even watch track? wrote:

centro's fool's gold wrote:

In a 4:07 mile equivalent "race." Hobby walk three 2-3/4 laps and then "run." Put some good 400/800m guys in the same race and Centro gets dusted.

Ummm ever heard of the Algerian Sheikh Makh Daddy Loofy

He also forgot andrews, souleiman, and a doped kiprop. It’s like he wasn’t even trying to pretend he knew anything about the race.

Besides Lagat, what American has thrown down fast 1500m times as consistently as Centro.

He has consistently been good for something in the ballpark of 3:30-3:31 during most years of his prime, and has a faster 1500m PR than Alan Webb, who many around here seem to regard as our country's most eminent time trialer.

Disko Eric wrote:

do you even watch track? wrote:

Ummm ever heard of the Algerian Sheikh Makh Daddy Loofy

He also forgot andrews, souleiman, and a doped kiprop. It’s like he wasn’t even trying to pretend he knew anything about the race.

Andrews wasn’t in the final. DQ’d for passing in the infield lol.