If that was a real xc course and not pancake flat, you’re in good shape. That’s like a 15:15 on the track, which needs at least a 4:28/9 mile or 4:26/7 1600. Assuming you’re like most high schoolers and you’re a little better the shorter the distance, I’d say you’re relatively close from your xc fitness and a little more emphasis on speed has you very close to your goal at peace shape.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Newbury Park standards wrote:
4:20 for a high school boy is not fast. It’s just not fast.
Yes, it is fast. In the Sacramento area, a 4:20 miler will always make it to the Section final and will often finish in the top 5. A typical 4:20 miler can also run 2 miles in 9:20 or faster. Local distance powerhouse, Jesuit HS, has had years where they didn't have one.
Did you run a 4:20 mile in HS and how many of your teammates ran that fast?
He’s quoting the Newbury Park coach. It was from a runnerspace show on the rivalry between Newbury Park and Great Oak. Pretty sure you can find it on YouTube.
CoachB wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Yes, it is fast. In the Sacramento area, a 4:20 miler will always make it to the Section final and will often finish in the top 5. A typical 4:20 miler can also run 2 miles in 9:20 or faster. Local distance powerhouse, Jesuit HS, has had years where they didn't have one.
Did you run a 4:20 mile in HS and how many of your teammates ran that fast?
He’s quoting the Newbury Park coach. It was from a runnerspace show on the rivalry between Newbury Park and Great Oak. Pretty sure you can find it on YouTube.
His quite doesn't sound easy to find, but Newbury Park and Great Oaks are not typical schools to use as comps.
I'm still curious as to whether the posters that claim 4:20 is not fast, ran one themselves.
That course I had my best race on, had 1 small hill and the rest was just small open fields and curves, I have to believe I just had a peak performance day and it was not a cut short pancake flat course.
But at the same time, 16:10 was my second fastest time so it could have been, but it seems there was nothing special about that course.
Please don’t question my knowledge of what is fast. When I talk with Salazar, Mike Smith, Jerry, etc, we all agree that 4:20 is not fast for a high school boy.
"Please don’t question my knowledge..." does not support an opinion.
Newbury Park standards wrote:
When someone with my credentials says something, it’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.
Right. The results contain splits and are hard to cut and paste, but in most years, a 4:20 will place someone in the top five in the section meet for the Sacramento area.
Are you talking about HS? In college, 4:20 milers are a dime a dozen.